Multi: 1983 Dow's, 1978 Quinta do Noval, 1985 Martinez Vintage Port

simon Lisle · Post by **simon Lisle** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:31 am

The dow's I've had a couple of times this year and I think their is more to come from this wine although it is still very pleasent to drink now.The Noval 78 is a lot better than their 75 but still a bit on the weak in body and fruit on it's way out I prefer the Vargellas for this year.The Martinez was lovely drinking I would say at it's peak and what a bargain price on the coat tails of the best 85's.

Post by **Andy Velebil** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:29 am

Simon,
Martinez seems to be that odd duck that ocassionally turns out a good VP.

Tom Archer · Post by **Tom Archer** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:02 am

I found Vargellas '78 to be an excellent wine for drinking now - not expensive, and one to look out for.

Tom

Alan C. · Post by **Alan C.** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:39 am

Simon,

Hi. How did you come across the Martinez 85, and how much was it. I'm keen to find a bottle.

Alan

Tom Archer · Post by **Tom Archer** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:02 am

Mz 85 appears surprisingly often at auction - and also has a habit of not meeting it's reserve.

When it does sell, the typical sale price is around £130 - £140/dozen.

Tom

Alan C. · Post by **Alan C.** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:26 am

Thanks Tom,

If you hear of any, even a bottle or two, with your more active and knowledgable eye, let me know and I'll chase it up.

I believe Martinez can be very hit and miss, but the 85 Derek,Alex-K and I had recently under the Harvey label was gorgeous, and again theres Simon saying he found it 'lovely'. I just cant seem to stumble across any.

Alan

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:35 pm

Alex,

Which of Martinez's VPs have you enjoyed so far? There US Importer used to be right here so I have a fine grouping of their wines in the past and would like to hear your opinion on this Shippers vintages.

simon Lisle · Post by **simon Lisle** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:13 pm

Alan I bought mine at auction £170 a case including BP,But I do beleive fine and rare wines are selling some oddments for £24 a bottle.

Alan C. · Post by **Alan C.** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:15 pm

Simon,

thanks I'll check it out.

Alan

Derek T. · Post by **Derek T.** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:02 pm

Tom,

Please let us know when this comes up again at auction - I am sure Alan and I would be happy to split a case at £140 if your bidding skills could secure the deal for us - we may even cut you in for a couple of free bottles 8)

Derek

Tom Archer · Post by **Tom Archer** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:27 pm

Will do - I might even pay for my bottles

The UK trade seems to have virtually no interest in Mz, so it's down to the likes of us to make the running!

Tom

Alan C. · Post by **Alan C.** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:41 pm

Good Men!

Todd Pettinger · Post by **Todd Pettinger** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:33 am

uncle tom wrote:The UK trade seems to have virtually no interest in Mz, so it's down to the likes of us to make the running!

You can keep a case or two in storage for me... I will pick it up next time I am in the UK and pay a storage premium as well!!!

(I think I've mentioned this already in one thread or another, but if it weren't for this forum, I wouldn't even know whether Martinez was a legitimate label or not!!! :))

Todd