LBV Ports

Steve Saxon · Post by **Steve Saxon** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:10 am

LBV's are a great inexpensive way to enjoy port's. What are your favorite producers and vintages?

Steve

nicos neocleous · Post by **nicos neocleous** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:39 pm

For me, this is currently my favourite LBV. The 1997 & 1994 are stunning examples.

Nicos

Jay Woodruff · Post by **Jay Woodruff** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:43 pm

Never had the 94 but the 97 was outstanding in my opinion. Good QPR as well.

Jason Brandt Lewis · Post by **Jason Brandt Lewis** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:31 pm

Noval, Crasto and Niepoort generally are my first three choices, though it will vary with the specific vintage.

Steve Saxon · Post by **Steve Saxon** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:21 pm

My favorite was the 94 Warre unfiltered. It got better everyday it was opened.

Frederick Blais · Post by **Frederick Blais** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:15 pm

Taste a few since the 1995 vintage, my two favorite are Niepoort and Noval both from the 1996 vintage. I find that LBV are better from off vintage. I was really impress by a surprising Delaforce LBV 1992 recently.

A nice quinta to look out for is Quinta do Tedo run by Vincent Bouchard. Their LBV is really good.

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:13 pm

My favorite all time LBV was the Quinta do Noval 1994.

I like Dow, Niepoort, Smith Woodhouse, Warre, Noval and Quinta do Portal. I believe that the best LBVs come from the declassified grapes from the top vintage years, although there are many exceptions.

Steve Saxon · Post by **Steve Saxon** » Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:16 pm

And what are declassified grapes?

Bill B · Post by **Bill B** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:21 am

Noval, Warre, Niepoort for LBV's

xxxMonique Heinemans · Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:14 pm

Warre 1992, Niepoort 1997 and Noval unfiltered 1997.

Ronald Wortel · Post by **Ronald Wortel** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:20 pm

Warre 1992 is lovely. Niepoort 1996 and 1998 (they age quite good as well). Quinta do Crasto 1997. Quinta do Passadouro 1997. And some of the older Quinta da Romaneira's (1989 is still drinking nicely as well as 1986).

BTW, the Rozès 1995 (the unfiltered version of course) and Ramos Pinto 1997 are very fine as well.

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:41 pm

Sorry Steve,

Declassified juice is that which is slightly less than meeting the organoleptic (sensorial criterion) parameters for a required cuvee. For example, at one time Caymus declassified some casks that were from blocks in their vineyard which did not meet the quality level desired for Caymus' top Napa label of Cabernet Sauvignon. So instead they created a 2nd label (at the time) called Liberty School Cabernet Sauvignon and made this a top notch value wine that underpromised and over-delivered for the price point.

The same thing happens with Port that just quite does not have either the tannic structure or proper Baume, or Ph level to go into the Vintage Port blend. This juice may wine up being used for Tawny Port or even a Reserve (used to be called "Vintage Character") and very likely will show up in LBV Ports.

Steve Saxon · Post by **Steve Saxon** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:49 am

So Roy, are your saying to buy LBV'S from the 92, 94 and 97 vintages, but stay away from from the 95, 96, and 98s?

Harris Ueng · Post by **Harris Ueng** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:26 am

Actually, this past weekend, I enjoyed a very tasty 98 Niepoort LBV -- an all-round enjoyable port that's just pleasant with a decently long finish. So, depending on what characteristics you enjoy, I wouldn't stay away from the 98's.

Andrew Stevenson · Post by **Andrew Stevenson** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:54 am

I'll add another vote for Noval 1997 LBV.

So good, that I bought two cases!

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:11 pm

Steve,

Nothing of the sort. I have had nice LBVs from the non-vintage years as well. I just have found mo' betta LBVs from the vintage years.

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