If you could take a masterclass on a specific category of Port which would it be?
a. Reserve Ruby and Reserve Tawny
b. White - including basic ones, White Colheitas and White Tawnies with an indication of age
c. Tawny with an indication of age - 10, 20, 30, 40+ and Very Old Tawny
d. Colheita
e. Crusted
f. Vintage
g. A masterclass that encompassed an example of all from above categories
Which category of Port would you choose ...
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Which category of Port would you choose ...
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Can I take all of the classes? ![Wink ;-)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
If forced to pick just one, I'd take b. I feel like I'm already pretty comfortable with all of the other categories, but white Ports are still new enough to me that I think I'd get the most information out of that one.
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If forced to pick just one, I'd take b. I feel like I'm already pretty comfortable with all of the other categories, but white Ports are still new enough to me that I think I'd get the most information out of that one.
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I would take f.
That gives me a chance to taste vps I have not, and maybe will not get my hands, or lips, on.
That gives me a chance to taste vps I have not, and maybe will not get my hands, or lips, on.
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"c."
As that is the only one that based around on how something should taste at a perceived age. Would be the most useful.
As that is the only one that based around on how something should taste at a perceived age. Would be the most useful.
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F.....a hole in my knowledge is discerning the various houses and their styles.
Any Port in a storm!
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F, Since I have only been drinking port for less than 4 years this would seriously increase my exposure to different years and house styles.
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Flawed pole since I can only chose one
Ok, if I HAD to chose just one, I think it would be the Crusted. I've got a good handle on the others as I've had them a lot. However, Crusted isn't something I see often in the States and it's not something I've had a large sampling of. So it would be very educational for me to do a master class, preferably with a large sample of Crusted Ports of various ages and producers, to get a better overall picture of them.
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Tough call between 'c' and 'f'. I think I'm going with 'f', but if you asked me when I was in a different mood ...
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I'd go for b. aka the White ports.
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Re: Which category of Port would you choose ...
F
So I could a better grasp
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You need to come south more often, we can help with thatLuc Gauthier wrote:F
So I could a better grasp
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I've loved white Ports for many years, long before they became trendy in recent years. Too bad you're not closer I've got a few older whites.Thomas V wrote:I'd go for b. aka the White ports.
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I will be in Las Vegas from the 7th of April and for 1 weeks time. You could stop by with a White PortAndy Velebil wrote:I've loved white Ports for many years, long before they became trendy in recent years. Too bad you're not closer I've got a few older whites.Thomas V wrote:I'd go for b. aka the White ports.
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But as Roy wrote, please do let us hear which older white gems you have in your collection?
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You both will have to wait and see one dayThomas V wrote:I will be in Las Vegas from the 7th of April and for 1 weeks time. You could stop by with a White PortAndy Velebil wrote:I've loved white Ports for many years, long before they became trendy in recent years. Too bad you're not closer I've got a few older whites.Thomas V wrote:I'd go for b. aka the White ports.
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But as Roy wrote, please do let us hear which older white gems you have in your collection?
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for me it's a matter of exclusion. i don't like tawnies and whites. i love VP's and always want to learn more and i'm intrigued by crusted port as i don't have any experience with it. so sign me up for both! ![Smile :-)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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Bert,Bert VD wrote:for me it's a matter of exclusion. i don't like tawnies and whites. i love VP's and always want to learn more and i'm intrigued by crusted port as i don't have any experience with it. so sign me up for both!
Have you tried older White Colheita's?
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i have tried old white ports, but not Colheita's. only tawny Colheita's.Andy Velebil wrote:Bert,Bert VD wrote:for me it's a matter of exclusion. i don't like tawnies and whites. i love VP's and always want to learn more and i'm intrigued by crusted port as i don't have any experience with it. so sign me up for both!
Have you tried older White Colheita's?
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I'd go for the whites also, having been saying similar for a good while; my preference is the old sweet whites rather than the dry (which are not really my thing, fine as they might be); some sweet old whites can be fabulous.Andy Velebil wrote:I've loved white Ports for many years, long before they became trendy in recent years. Too bad you're not closer I've got a few older whites.![]()
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IMO, there is a big difference in White Port styles. I've had decent younger aged white tawny's (10, 20 year olds) and I've had not so good ones. A lot of White Port has come from the old Casa do Douro stocks when it got trendy and producers needed a lot of it. As it wasn't something most producers had any of, or at best, they had just a small amount lying around for private use. I have not been impressed with many efforts as a result of the sudden rush to put these out. Those producers who've used their own, or mostly their own, older stocks have made better products IMO.Bert VD wrote:i have tried old white ports, but not Colheita's. only tawny Colheita's.Andy Velebil wrote:Bert,Bert VD wrote:for me it's a matter of exclusion. i don't like tawnies and whites. i love VP's and always want to learn more and i'm intrigued by crusted port as i don't have any experience with it. so sign me up for both!
Have you tried older White Colheita's?
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