is this VP or Colheita

[Andy Velebil]

One thing that bugs me about the label is the wording. It looks like someone cut out a different label and scanned it onto this one. You can clearly see the cut outs for each word. Why would a very old label appear to have parts of it scanned on to it? No other parts of it have the unique cut/scanned appearance.

Glenn,
Actually, in old wine it's easy to make something that didn't exist to begin with and sell it. It's far harder to make a fake of a well known bottle(s) as there are plenty of real exemplars to compare them to.

[Gerwin de Graaf]

I just received a reply back on my message to Royal Oporto (Real Companhia Velha), from mr Pedro Silva Reis (president).

He let me know that they "don't recognise the labels on the bottles as being original and have a strong feeling that the bottles are fake". And he also said they recently encountered fake old bottles in a Portugese auction.
So I let the auctioneer know that I received this message.

Earlier I sent a message to the auctioneer as well with a couple of questions regarding the seller of the bottles. They let me know, that these bottles come from a new client (not a known seller), and that there is no additional information on the bottles (other than that they are sure that the bottles are old, I replied by asking how they have determined this).

So all in all, I think the risk is to big for the bid I put in at first, so I lowered my bid by 50% (I still am curious about what it really is). Now I don't expect to win the bottles, but should I get them at my bid, they will not have been too costly (a little gamble of some sort).

Thanks for your tips guys! You may very well have saved me from a costly (potential) mistake. And if I do get the bottles, I am more than happy to share one of them with you all (if we ever are in the same area, or continent ) to see what it contains.

I did not get the lot at the auction. Don't know whether I was outbid, or if maybe the lot was withdrawn from the auction. I'll check out the results when they are published.

[Gerwin de Graaf]

I just received a reply back on my message to Royal Oporto (Real Companhia Velha), from mr Pedro Silva Reis (president).

He let me know that they "don't recognise the labels on the bottles as being original and have a strong feeling that the bottles are fake". And he also said they recently encountered fake old bottles in a Portugese auction.
So I let the auctioneer know that I received this message.

Earlier I sent a message to the auctioneer as well with a couple of questions regarding the seller of the bottles. They let me know, that these bottles come from a new client (not a known seller), and that there is no additional information on the bottles (other than that they are sure that the bottles are old, I replied by asking how they have determined this).

So all in all, I think the risk is to big for the bid I put in at first, so I lowered my bid by 50% (I still am curious about what it really is). Now I don't expect to win the bottles, but should I get them at my bid, they will not have been too costly (a little gamble of some sort).

Thanks for your tips guys! You may very well have saved me from a costly (potential) mistake. And if I do get the bottles, I am more than happy to share one of them with you all (if we ever are in the same area, or continent ) to see what it contains.

I did not get the lot at the auction. Don't know whether I was outbid, or if maybe the lot was withdrawn from the auction. I'll check out the results when they are published.

The lot was sold, so wasn't withdrawn from the auction. If I had kept my original bid, I would have gotten the bottles (they sold a litte under my bid). They went for €470 (plus premiums) for the 2 bottles.