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by Jasper A. » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:07 pm
I am looking into a special bottle, but i have no experience with a Noval Nacional form this vintage. Pricing is decent, so what to do?
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by Andy Velebil » Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:47 pm
The only thing that gives me pause is the wax. I’ve never seen a Nacional with wax before.
Where is this being bought from? Is there a paper trail as to it’s background?
If all checks out it should be a very nice bottle.
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by Moses Botbol » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:03 am
Andy Velebil wrote: ↑ Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:47 pm
The only thing that gives me pause is the wax. I’ve never seen a Nacional with wax before.
Where is this being bought from? Is there a paper trail as to it’s background?
If all checks out it should be a very nice bottle.
The wax is old at least.
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by Andreas Platt » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:30 am
Looks weird.
1) wax looks like that on some "ancient" bottles I have recently seen and which in my eyes were fake
2) the selo would have been a JNV (Junta Nacional do Vinho) in the end of 1940ies...this looks to me like an adopted IVV (Instituto da Vinha e do Vinho) seal.
3) the wax looks (which doesn't necessarily/automatically mean that it IS) old
All these points should be taken into account given the name of the owner/provenance. But I learned in collecting over 20 years: the seller of such wines is the most reliable factor.
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by Jasper A. » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:55 pm
Thank for all the comments.
I decided not to bid on the bottle. The risk is just to big and the shape of the bottle isn't that great.