Out of curiosity . . .

Luc Gauthier · Post by **Luc Gauthier** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:09 am

Having never tried Madeira , I purchased a Leacock's Rainwater and to compare , I also purchased a H&H 15 yr old Verdelho . Would there be a pronounced difference ?

Frederick Blais · Post by **Frederick Blais** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:42 am

It will be day and night!

Peter Reutter · Post by **Peter Reutter** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:50 am

Dear Luc,

the Leacock's Rainwater is not bad but compared to the 15 YO H&H Verdelho it will seem watery indeed. Even though the two wines should have about the same level of sweetness, the Rainwater is rather light and without any depth, hence the name...
I remember the 15 YO Verdelho from H&H as being a very good one, multilayered, could beat some modern vintage Madeiras in depth and complexity.
But I think your approach to Madeira wine makes a lot of sense, starting with something ordinary and then working your way up. The next logical step would be a Verdelho vintage Madeira from the 20th century, Barbeitos maybe, or also H&H. You should take a look at Roy's TN's to find out what sounds best for you.
Enjoy!
Peter

Luc Gauthier · Post by **Luc Gauthier** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:58 am

Txs for the advice Peter , and your comment Fred . . .

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:39 am

[quote]Having never tried Madeira , I purchased a Leacock's Rainwater and to compare , I also purchased a H&H 15 yr old Verdelho . Would there be a pronounced difference ?[/quote]

No more so than say a 2006 Cru Beaujolais and a 1989 Haut Brion.

Luc Gauthier · Post by **Luc Gauthier** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:05 am

Roy ,I get the message . . .

Moses Botbol · Post by **Moses Botbol** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:53 am

Frederick Blais wrote:It will be day and night!

Indeed, the 15 year is good one...

Todd Pettinger · Post by **Todd Pettinger** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:52 pm

Roy Hersh wrote:No more so than say a 2006 Cru Beaujolais and a 1989 Haut Brion.

I actually had to look these two up...

How embarrasing!

It sounds like the H&H 15 Year would be a good one for me to try as well then for a good Madeira experience!

Todd

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:16 am

In a word, YES.

Luc Gauthier · Post by **Luc Gauthier** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:51 am

Todd Pettinger wrote:
Roy Hersh wrote:No more so than say a 2006 Cru Beaujolais and a 1989 Haut Brion.
I actually had to look these two up... How embarrasing!

It sounds like the H&H 15 Year would be a good one for me to try as well then for a good Madeira experience!

Todd

Todd , great minds think alike . . .

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:14 am

And to think that Todd does not even enjoy peanut butter with his Madeira!

Luc Gauthier · Post by **Luc Gauthier** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:37 am

Good one , Roy .
Hate to dissapoint , but Madeira and peanut butter just don't mix . . .

Todd Pettinger · Post by **Todd Pettinger** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:54 am

Roy Hersh wrote:And to think that Todd does not even enjoy peanut butter with his Madeira!

I laughed out loud when I read this one because I really have to be in the mood to enjoy peanut butter, never mind with Port or Madeira.

Actuallym the local selection of Madeira sucks just enough that PB with ANY of them would be a travesty! (and likely a waste of good Madeira!)

Todd

Luc Gauthier · Post by **Luc Gauthier** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:51 am

Todd , in La Belle Province you can get H & H 5 yr for $ 15.00 and work your way to Pereira d'Oliveira demi-sec Verdelho 1850 for $ 1,195 .00 !!!
Can you spare a dime .