Hello new here , price of port ?

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Tom Archer
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Is it strange there is no bottling year given? What are/were the regulations for mention of bottling year on Colheita labels?
Not sure, but it is generally absent on pre. WWII bottles

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I think the bottling date is rare to see on any of these ports prior to the 1970s. I know for sure that I have had Niepoort colheitas from 57 and 68 with no bottling date.
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I know for sure that I have had Niepoort colheitas from 57 and 68 with no bottling date.
Look again more carefully - my bottles have a pale red diagonal overprint that is easy to overlook..

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Derek T. wrote:I think the bottling date is rare to see on any of these ports prior to the 1970s. I know for sure that I have had Niepoort colheitas from 57 and 68 with no bottling date.
Many older Niepoort Colheita's had a small square label on the back of the bottle with "Engarifado en 19__", typically in red letters, diagonal across the square. Most I've seen have been partially worn off over time and are difficult at best to read now. Was it possible it was there at one time and has since fallen away or was unreadable?
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Tom,

Thank you for joining us here. There is a lot of information in this thread which I believe to be inaccurate, but I am not going to go back and bring up each point and refute it.

I've had many of these old RCV Colheitas and believe the oldest was 1815 that I've tried. Additionally, 1851, 1870 and 1896 to name just a few from the 19th century. I have seen bottling dates on some of mine and also a few that I took pictures of at the source this past February.

These Colheitas have most been quite good and some even were GREAT. Additionally, I have LOTS of old Colheita bottles (empty) from the vast majority of producers of this type of Port that were made between 1815 and 1957 (lots of younger ones too) and many of them DO have dates of bottling on the labels, either front or back.

What counts most is your impression of the wine itself. Thanks for coming to share your photo etc. Much appreciated!
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Roy,

If there are inaccuracies in this thread I for one would be very interested to know what they are. One of the great things about this forum is that it educates the people who come here, whether they are experienced port drinkers or those with just a passing or casual interest.

So, if there are some important "facts" that need correcting please do correct them :wink:

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