An old Port category you never hear about

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An old Port category you never hear about

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Ok, put on your best Google and share what you learn here. You may not be aware of this category. In fact, few people really know what this is. Fewer have ever tried any: QUINADO PORT.

So go to work and please do share what you learn. :scholar:

You can still buy it today as Real Companhia Velha has a bottling for sale @ $345 in Portugal. Abel Pereira da Fonseca (ever heard of them? :) has their Quinado Belo Port in a 1 liter bottle for just under $75 at the same shop. Ramos Pinto has a Quinado Vitaminado for sub $10 which is available in Brazil and for a good reason.

Hint: Quinado : Quinine
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If you don't want to bother, check out Robin Garr's explanation:

http://www.wineloverspage.com/wines/wt090199.shtml

Have you ever tasted a Quinado Port? I don't think we'll have more than 2-3 responses here. [shrug.gif]
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Roy Hersh wrote:
You can still buy it today as Real Companhia Velha has a bottling for sale @ $345 in Portugal. Abel Pereira da Fonseca (ever heard of them? :) has their Quinado Belo Port in a 1 liter bottle for just under $75 at the same shop.
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:shock: So how much of it do they actually sell at that price?
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Noel Cossart said that Cossart Gordon made a malmsey madeira blended with quinine, that they shipped to Mozambique and Angola. He referred to it as vinho quinado.
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Gary,

And they were not the only ones to do so with Madeira.


Andy,

Have a look at the FOR THE LOVE OF PORT's FB PAGE and you will see some interesting photos.
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I've had quinine infused Sherry. Not bad. Never had a Port or Madeira with it.
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I have never tasted or heard of it, but from what is written in the article and suggested above it is not a "Port category", it is a style of wine made with Port as the base ingredient.

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No longer popular, this was a far more significant type of Port 3/4 of a century ago. LOTS of shippers produced this circa WWII.
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Roy Hersh wrote:No longer popular, this was a far more significant type of Port 3/4 of a century ago. LOTS of shippers produced this circa WWII.
That doesn't make it Port. [dash1.gif]

75 years ago the working class women of Great Britain drank Port and lemon (which I think was lemonade). If you bottled it you couldn't sell it as Port, because it isn't Port. Port and quinine (is that Port and tonic?) isn't Port, it's Port and quinine.

It isn't Port.
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Makes sense. White port and tonic is a lovely cocktail, so why not flavor the port? Certainly would not do this with a fine vintage, but I can see the appeal of this "drink" and it has its place. Never had or even of this style of port. Thanks for posting!
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It was done as a medicinal aid to protect against disease; actually promoted by some as an antimalarial.

Derek, by the same reasoning ... is Croft Pink - and all that followed ... really Port? :lol: Just kidding, of course.
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Roy Hersh wrote:It was done as a medicinal aid to protect against disease; actually promoted by some as an antimalarial.

Derek, by the same reasoning ... is Croft Pink - and all that followed ... really Port? :lol: Just kidding, of course.
I can't quite believe I am doing this but your tongue in cheek question has forced me to admit that Croft Pink is Port. It is made from the fermented juice of grapes grown in the Douro fortified with grape spirit.

The subject of this thread was Port, right up to the point it had another ingredient added.

IT IS NOT A "PORT CATEGORY".

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Roy Hersh wrote:It was done as a medicinal aid to protect against disease; actually promoted by some as an antimalarial.

Derek, by the same reasoning ... is Croft Pink - and all that followed ... really Port? :lol: Just kidding, of course.
Up until rather recently, quinine was the only known treatment for malaria, and is still part of many low budget treatment regimens today (though not usually in alcohol and tonic, or straight tonic forms anymore). For all we know, that might have been one of the most effective "medicinal" booze treatments in the last 200 years! It actually has some scientific backing, as opposed to most "elixirs."
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Bradley Bogdan wrote:
Roy Hersh wrote:It was done as a medicinal aid to protect against disease; actually promoted by some as an antimalarial.

Derek, by the same reasoning ... is Croft Pink - and all that followed ... really Port? :lol: Just kidding, of course.
Up until rather recently, quinine was the only known treatment for malaria, and is still part of many low budget treatment regimens today (though not usually in alcohol and tonic, or straight tonic forms anymore). For all we know, that might have been one of the most effective "medicinal" booze treatments in the last 200 years! It actually has some scientific backing, as opposed to most "elixirs."
That means we should drink more. Just to be on the safe side, so we don't get malaria of course :winebath:
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Andy Velebil wrote:
Bradley Bogdan wrote:
Roy Hersh wrote:It was done as a medicinal aid to protect against disease; actually promoted by some as an antimalarial.

Derek, by the same reasoning ... is Croft Pink - and all that followed ... really Port? :lol: Just kidding, of course.
Up until rather recently, quinine was the only known treatment for malaria, and is still part of many low budget treatment regimens today (though not usually in alcohol and tonic, or straight tonic forms anymore). For all we know, that might have been one of the most effective "medicinal" booze treatments in the last 200 years! It actually has some scientific backing, as opposed to most "elixirs."
That means we should drink more. Just to be on the safe side, so we don't get malaria of course :winebath:
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