Smaller production for sure. What vintages are you comparing to? How do they price next to '83 and '85?Miguel Simoes wrote:Smaller production volume that year?
What have you opened this week?
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The only 1980 bottle I have is a GC that I paid $57.5 for. Others like G, D and T seem to be more like $70+Moses Botbol wrote:Smaller production for sure. What vintages are you comparing to? How do they price next to '83 and '85?Miguel Simoes wrote:Smaller production volume that year?
I've been able to find 83 G for under $60, 77 D for $75 and 77 G for $65. All of those supposedly as good or better than any 1980 VP.
Was also able to get quite a few F 85 for $70.
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I see Graham, Taylor, or Sandeman 80 equal 77 Dow or Graham. Dow has a lot of bottle variance and Graham can be on the hot side.Miguel Simoes wrote:I've been able to find 83 G for under $60, 77 D for $75 and 77 G for $65. All of those supposedly as good or better than any 1980 VP.
Was also able to get quite a few F 85 for $70.
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Moses Botbol wrote:I see Graham, Taylor, or Sandeman 80 equal 77 Dow or Graham. Dow has a lot of bottle variance and Graham can be on the hot side.Miguel Simoes wrote:I've been able to find 83 G for under $60, 77 D for $75 and 77 G for $65. All of those supposedly as good or better than any 1980 VP.
Was also able to get quite a few F 85 for $70.
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1991 Croft VP. What I love about this Port is that it is showing some secondary character already. Most 1994s are still such youngsters w/ very little in the way of development considering 20 years of age. Not the case with this beautiful version from 1991, one of the truly outstanding Croft Ports post 1945.
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Had some last night that finally tasted more balanced (ie, enjoyable) after a full day in decanter and 2 back in the bottle. Lets see what the future holds...Miguel Simoes wrote:2011 Barão de Vilar VP - from the recent WTSO deal.
Opened it yesterday, sitting in decanter. Enjoyed it though the tannins were a bit harsh... hoping that they mellow out w time in decanter.
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3 days will be where you want it to be.Miguel Simoes wrote:Had some last night that finally tasted more balanced (ie, enjoyable) after a full day in decanter and 2 back in the bottle. Lets see what the future holds...Miguel Simoes wrote:2011 Barão de Vilar VP - from the recent WTSO deal.
Opened it yesterday, sitting in decanter. Enjoyed it though the tannins were a bit harsh... hoping that they mellow out w time in decanter.
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Yes, amazing what two or three days can do to a very young VP. Let us know how day 3 goes.Miguel Simoes wrote:Had some last night that finally tasted more balanced (ie, enjoyable) after a full day in decanter and 2 back in the bottle. Lets see what the future holds...Miguel Simoes wrote:2011 Barão de Vilar VP - from the recent WTSO deal.
Opened it yesterday, sitting in decanter. Enjoyed it though the tannins were a bit harsh... hoping that they mellow out w time in decanter.
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Not great. Had some last night and it felt like the fruit was starting to fade. Good that we're almost done w it.Andy Velebil wrote:Yes, amazing what two or three days can do to a very young VP. Let us know how day 3 goes.
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Fonseca 1983 - nice drinking but only a mid-eighties score
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1970 Grahams Vintage. Rocked with 12 hours in decanter. Finished off the Andresen 10 Year after the Graham.
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V excited to hear reg the G 70! Taking note of the decant time :)Moses Botbol wrote:1970 Grahams Vintage. Rocked with 12 hours in decanter. Finished off the Andresen 10 Year after the Graham.
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I would do at least 7 hours. I decanted and let sit for 4-5 hours, then poured back into the bottle 5+ hours before serving.Miguel Simoes wrote:V excited to hear reg the G 70! Taking note of the decant time :)Moses Botbol wrote:1970 Grahams Vintage. Rocked with 12 hours in decanter. Finished off the Andresen 10 Year after the Graham.
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1977 Kopke Colheita
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1983 Tuke Holdsworth VP
NV Tuke Holdsworth Porto Wine Reserve
The '83 was damaged due to a dried out cork. The Reserve is nice and a good QPR at $14 in WA.
NV Tuke Holdsworth Porto Wine Reserve
The '83 was damaged due to a dried out cork. The Reserve is nice and a good QPR at $14 in WA.
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Kopke 20 Year Old Tawny. Very nice when first opened. I'll see if I can get a TN together tonight.
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Quevedo 20 year old Tawny Port
1994 Dow's Vintage Port
1994 Dow's Vintage Port
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Warm up for this weekend?Eric Menchen wrote:Kopke 20 Year Old Tawny. Very nice when first opened. I'll see if I can get a TN together tonight.
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1994 Fonseca VP.
Still a youngster, but beautifully integrated, well structured and the finish went on and on!
Still a youngster, but beautifully integrated, well structured and the finish went on and on!