Ward McAllister: Society as I have found it

[Peter Reutter]

Finally... after almost a year of silence, here comes a new chapter to the MadeiraWineGuide.
It might be interesting to Madeira wine lovers who want to know more about the specific American background of this wine.

Enjoy the read!

direkt link: http://www.madeirawineguide.com/60writi ... d_it_1890/

[Eric Ifune]

Died while dining at the Union Club. Must have been quite an end!

[Andy Velebil]

Very interesting and informative. Thanks

[Roy Hersh]

Eric is right, and I'd certainly rather see the end, from inside a huge vat of Malmsey like the Duke of Clarence.

Thanks Peter. Nice to see you back here.

[Reidar Andersen]

Thanks Peter... But Roy, better to die in min 20 year old Terrantez..

[Daniel Fraley]

I loved this part, I wonder if any can still be found at auction? "The Widow" sounds intriguing, I'm guessing a very acidic Sercial!

The great New York Madeiras, famous when landed and still famous, were “The Marsh and Benson, 1809,” “The Coles Madeira,” “The Stuyvesant,” “The Clark,” and “The Eliza.” In Philadelphia, “The Butler, 16.” In Boston, The “Kirby,” the “Amory 1800,” and “1811,” “The Otis,” In Baltimore, “The Marshall,” “The Holmes Demijohn,” “The Mob,” “The Colt.” In Charleston, “The Rutledge,” “The Hurricane,” “The Earthquake,” “The Maid,” “The Traddstreet.” In Savannah, “The All Saints” (1791), “The Catherine Banks,” “The Louisa Cecilia” (1818), “The Rapid,” 1817, and “The Widow.”

[Peter Reutter]

I loved this part, I wonder if any can still be found at auction? "The Widow" sounds intriguing, I'm guessing a very acidic Sercial!

Most of these names came from the ships that transported the wine to the U.S., as an example "The Widow" was one of these ships. Still makes you wonder about the name and the abilities of the captain maybe... Many famous ships can be found in the chapter http://www.madeirawineguide.com/10madei ... ippers_co/ of the MadeiraWineGuide.

Regarding "The Hurricane" which was certainly the most famous of Habersham's wines, this wine was not a vintage wine, but a blend. Mannie Berk wrote an absolutely brilliant chapter about this special wine in his second edition of Cossart's "Madeira - the island vineyard", starting from page 303.

Also read more about Habersham and the "Painted Pipe" Madeira in the chapter http://www.madeirawineguide.com/60writi ... eira_wine/ of the MWG.

Anybody own any of these old AMERICAN Madeiras? The few that I had where rather dry and acidic, which seems to be consistent with the taste that Ward McAllister described in his book.

Peter

[Roy Hersh]

Thanks Peter... But Roy, better to die in min 20 year old Terrantez..

Reidar, if I drowned tomorrow in a cask of 1802 Acciaioly, I'd die a very happy man.

[Roy Hersh]

Peter,

Thank you so much for sharing your Madeira wisdom here!

I can assure you that your presence was greatly missed in NY and I do hope you will be able to join us again next year!

[Peter Reutter]

Reidar, if I drowned tomorrow in a cask of 1802 Acciaioly, I'd die a very happy man.

Roy, If you find enough Acciaioly 1802 T to fill a cask with it, I will join you there and spend my last hours drinking as much as I can

And I would be very happy to join you next time. I told you the background of not being able to participate and we have things straightened out and back to normal, meaning there is a green light for next time

[Eric Ifune]

Roy Hersh wrote:Reidar, if I drowned tomorrow in a cask of 1802 Acciaioly, I'd die a very happy man.


Roy, If you find enough Acciaioly 1802 T to fill a cask with it, I will join you there and spend my last hours drinking as much as I can

And I would be very happy to join you next time. I told you the background of not being able to participate and we have things straightened out and back to normal, meaning there is a green light for next time