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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:24 am
by Derek T.
Frank Sinatra (G.I. 655321) falls in love with Elizabeth Taylor in the movie ????? (I'm too young to remember

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Derek
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:28 am
by Roy Hersh
There are at least 3 people that know the name of the flick. Now putting together the rest of the "clue" and unraveling the mystery, is just a matter of time.
Derek, you are closer than ever before ... but put in Port terms, you are guessing Tempranillo and not Tinta Roriz.
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:54 am
by Derek T.
Now you are just trying to confuse me again
From the latest cryptic clue I assume I have:
The wrong variety of Frank
or
The wrong variety of Elizabeth
or
The number isn't on Frank's Dog Tag
I can't think of another Frank apart from Frank Spencer and he was married to Betty (Elizabeth) so - was there a film version of Some Mothers Do have Them where Frank joined the Army?
Derek
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 12:04 pm
by Roy Hersh
No, but Frank Zappa was the band leader of the Mother's of Invention. Still confused?

Choose another grape, or fruit.
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:54 pm
by tvstorey
Roy,
From your last entry I am going to claim that I know where the reference is from and "what" it refers to. But as I am not going to be able to utilize the prize, I am going to leave it to others to give you an answer.
I'm a little amused that your UK contingent hasn't quite picked it out yet. I listen to the BBC radio news when I'm at my desk and it seems rarely a week goes by when there isn't a reference to the modern manifestation of this topic.
On the other hand, to cut them some slack, it was largely unavailable in the UK for almost 30 years.
There: I think I have managed to claim I solved it, avoid offering any proof of my solution, and either confuse or enlighten those still seeking -- all in one fell swoop. :)
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:03 pm
by Andy Velebil
Tyler, A hint by others made me think, so... A call to several friends in the "Industry" helped me with part of it, I think...and I think I am on to what your guess is. If that is does not pan out, here is guess #2.
Frank is the bottling line supervisor at Taylor's and he personnally verified that 655321 bottles of port had the Seal of Guarantee on them before they left the lodge.
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:42 pm
by Roy Hersh
I could have used that as another hint as it seems that Tyler let the cat out of the bag. I appreciate his allowing someone else who will use the PRIZE to spout out the answer.
How funny to use a Lodge and in Portuguese, de Lodge no less. Just kidding, ALMOST.
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 4:38 pm
by tvstorey
Roy,
My apologies if the cat is now ex bag. I had intended to be rather obscurant.
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:47 pm
by pgwerner
Roy Hersh wrote:I never said this had anything to do with wine.
Not even a 1960 Chateau St Estèphe?
Peter
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:55 pm
by Roy Hersh
Clever Peter,
Are you a fan?

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:29 pm
by pgwerner
Roy Hersh wrote:Clever Peter,
Are you a fan?

Yes – one of my favorites.
I'm not planning on doing any traveling this summer, though, so I'm leaving the answer open. Has anybody who's actually trying for the prize figured it out yet?
Peter
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:39 am
by Roy Hersh
I will be traveling to NY as of Wed. night so I will release the answer by then or let Peter do so. Those who do plan to come on the trip with us (and it sadly seems like a paltry few from this Forum) could take advantage of this opportunity.
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:29 pm
by Steven Kooij
Got milk? :?

8)
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:33 am
by Roy Hersh
Hints: To be Frank, 655321 has to deal with Taylor, although this has nothing to do with the IVDP Seal of Guarantee.
The movie which all of these hints comes from, is A Clockwork Orange by Stanley Kubrick (the master) who in 1971 set out to recreate the book by A. Burgess.
Frank - is the man that head of the Droogs, Alex visits at "Home" and breaks into Frank's house one rainy evening after some of the Synthemesc and Moloko Plus, looking for a bit of the old in-out. While Singing in the Rain, Alex tapes Franks mouth and takes advantage of the Mrs. while poor Frank takes a few kicks she takes a few sticks. He later gets revenge when Alex comes stumbling back "Home" after his old Droogs, now police, mercilessly beat him and almost drown him too. Frank plays some of Beethoven's Ninth (2nd Movement) while poor Alex is locked in an upstairs bedroom and tries to "snuff it."
655321 is Alex's prision number that he was called by (5-10 times) by the prison sargent, warden and preacher.
He has to deal with Taylor, actually Dr. Taylor towards the very end of the movie while still in the hospital recovering from his suicide attempt. After all he has been cured, when she shows him some pictures to make sure and then blasts the 9th for him to enjoy once again, before giving way to Alex's new friend, the politically ambitious Minister.
So Taylor truly has nothing to do with Port, no less the IVDP Seal of Guarantee.
I realize that Great Britain banned the movie for about 30 years ... but I'm sure most of you have seen this at least once.
"Come and get one in the yarbles, if you have any yarbles!"
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:03 am
by Al B.
OK. That went way over my head. I'll just sit in the corner and mumble quietly to myself waiting for the next impossible quiz.
Alex