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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:19 pm
by Roy Hersh
Does anybody out there own any Tregnums of Port?
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:08 am
by Steven Kooij
Apart from those already mentioned, I know of the following large format bottlings:
Magnums
Taylor: 1995 (QdV), 2000, 2001 (QdV), 2003
Fonseca: 2000, 2001 (both FG and QdP), 2004 (QdP)
Cockburn: 1963
Niepoort: 1987, 2000, 2003
Kopke: 1999
Q.d. Passadouro: 1998
Double magnums
Graham’s: 1994
magnums
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:52 am
by dave leach
i see no mention from anyone about mags made by either smith woodhouse or gould campbell. these two houses are some of the better values on the market, especially for older vintages, ie 77 and 83. anyone know if they made mags in the 70-91 vintages?
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:05 am
by Steven Kooij
I came across an on-line retailer offering magnums of Gould Campbell 1977.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:03 am
by Steven Kooij
Spend my lunch break checking some online retailers and found some more magnums; I've updated the list.
magnums
Cockburn: 1935, 1963, 1994;
Croft: 1977, 2000, 2003;
Delaforce: 2000;
Dow: 1970, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1994, 2003;
Fonseca: 1970, 1977, 1985, 1992, 1997, 2000, 2001 (both FG and QdP), 2003, 2004 (QdP);
Gould Campbell: 1977;
Graham’s: 1966, 1970, 1975, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1991, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2003;
Kopke: 1999;
Niepoort: 1987, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2003;
Noval: 1955, 1963;
Offley Boa Vista: 1977;
Passadouro: 1998, 2000;
Portal: 2000;
Presidential: 2000;
Ramos Pinto: 1983, 1985;
Rebello Valente: 1977;
Rozes: 1991;
Sandeman: 1970, 1985; 1997 (Vau);
Smith Woodhouse : 1977;
Taylor: 1970, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1991 (QdV), 1992, 1995 (Qdv), 1996 (QdV), 1997, 2000, 2001 (QdV), 2003;
Vesuvio: 1997, 2000, 2003;
Warre: 1977, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1994, 1997, 2003;
Double Magnums
Graham’s: 1994;
Sandeman: 1997 (Vau);
Taylor: 1977;
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:14 am
by Chris G
I have the Croft 70 in Magnum, the only one I am afraid, but certainly looking to add!
If anyone wants a good night out Boisedale's an excellent Scottish restaurant in London has a Dow 1896 Nebucaduezzar for sale ( 24 hours notice mind ) at £10,000. (20 bottles at £500 equivalent a bottle)
It was ordered for a 70th birthday celebration in the 20's, sadly he died and the party was cancelled but the bottle survives!
Details on website
http://www.boisdale.co.uk
Dow 1896 Nebuchadnezzar
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:20 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
I'd love to share. We'd need forty of us though.
The author of that [url=http://www.boisdale.co.uk/pdfs/belgravia/WineList12Jan07.pdf]wine list[/url], on the last page, wrote:586
Dow 1896 Nebuchadnezzar (20 bottles) (Level: into bottom neck) 24 hours notice is required to clear this from our bonded warehouse. 4 feet high and 4 stone in weight, this hand blown bottle was ordered for a 70th birthday celebration in the 1920’s. The person in whose honour the dinner was being held sadly died, the party was cancelled, but as fortune would have it the bottle has survived. A phenomenal vintage, excellent provenance and fantastic value at the equivalent of £500.00 per bottle. £10,000.00
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:51 am
by Al B.
I've just been looking at Corney & Barrow's current stock list. They have a magnum of Taylor 1948 on offer for £2,350. At £1,175 per bottle that makes the Dow 1896 an absolute bargain.
Alex
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:53 am
by John Danza
christopher wrote:If anyone wants a good night out Boisedale's an excellent Scottish restaurant in London has a Dow 1896 Nebucaduezzar for sale ( 24 hours notice mind ) at £10,000. (20 bottles at £500 equivalent a bottle)
It was ordered for a 70th birthday celebration in the 20's, sadly he died and the party was cancelled but the bottle survives!
Details on website
http://www.boisdale.co.uk
This would make for a great tasting party, and not really overly expensive per person. If you factor 6 pours per normal size bottle, that would make 120 people. At $20,000 for the bottle, that's $167 per person. With 1896 having been an excellent year, the wine is probably still pretty youthful.
New thread started on the Dow 1896.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:16 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
New thread started on the Dow 1896.
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:17 pm
by Gilles Séguin
Hi,
I have only one mag. in my cellar a Warre's 85. But I checked in the monopoly winestore in my province (SAQ) and here is the list of available magnums ( I include the price in us $ for your info.)
Calem 2000 (89$)
Delaforce 1977 (188$)
Dow's 1977 (221$), Dow's 2000 (106$)
Fonseca 2000 (158$)
Gould Campbell 2000 (88$)
Graham's 1977 (245$), Graham's 2000 (125$)
Quinta do Vesuvio 2000 ( 120$)
Quinta do Castellinho 2000 (72$)
Quinta do Pego 2000 (82)
Sandeman Vau 2000 (82$)
Smith Woodhouse 1977 (298$), Smith Woodhouse 2000 (92$)
Taylor Fladgate 1970 (763$), Taylor 1997 (212$), Taylor 2000 (224$)
Warre's 2000 (107$)
Gilles
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:32 am
by Roy Hersh
Christopher: Now look what you have started!
Gilles: Grab the 2000 Vesuvio and Fonseca tomorrow
John D: thank you, you can feel free to go 2x that, if you'd like.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:01 am
by John Danza
Sorry to resurrect this old thread about magnums, but I just became aware of the bottling of some 1908 Graham magnums. They were bottled by the English bottler Plasket in 1910. I ran into this info when scanning some old information about The Saintsbury Club. A dozen of these bottles were donated to the club's cellar in 1931 by one of the founding members, Ian Campbell.
Re: magnums
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:05 pm
by Roy Hersh
As I just opened a magnum of 1977 Warre's for 6 of us the other night, I thought I would have a look to see what threads were specifically about magnums and found this one the most intriguing and felt it was worth resurrecting at this time.
Re: magnums
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:16 am
by Andy Velebil
This year I've aquired several magnums, mostly newer Ports and some from older vintages. I think its fun to open them, but the setting has to be right. One of my favorites is a 1997 Quinta do Vesuvio magnum in a decorative wood box that i found in the basement of a little wine shop in Boston when I was there ealier this year. I can't recall ever seeing a Vesuvio magnum for sale around my parts, so I just had to get it.
Re: magnums
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:36 pm
by Richard Henderson
I have a case of 6 Taylor 1992 mags and 2 mags of Fonseca , bought on release for my son's 1992 birth year.
I have never bought nor seen for sale in our area any other mags and think it is not the best size. We plan to open these for graduations, weddings, etc.
I have never opened a mag of port.
Re: magnums
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:52 pm
by John Danza
For those of you who use Winebid.com occasionally for acquisitions, I noticed that they have several lots of port magnums in this week's auction. The 1997 and 2000 Dow lots are new for this week. They've had the 1960 Graham up for auction for several weeks now. I've thought about the 1960 Graham but didn't want to pull the trigger on $350 plus the buyer's fee plus tax, given that this is a shakey vintage.
Re: magnums
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:01 pm
by Tom Archer
I don't really do magnums, but i do have half a dozen Morgan '66 in that format.
About a year ago, an Imperial of Taylor '85 went under the hammer in London.
Tom
Re:
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:38 am
by Moses Botbol
John Danza wrote:Sorry to resurrect this old thread about magnums, but I just became aware of the bottling of some 1908 Graham magnums. They were bottled by the English bottler Plasket in 1910.
Oh my... That is the best Graham I have ever had and can only imagine how much youth is in that magnum!
I have seen 1997 magnums of all the big names. I have 70 Croft and Sandeman in Magnum. Had '85 Grahams.
I think from 1970+ you should be able to find magnums of all the big names except Nacional.
Re: magnums
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:11 am
by Andy Velebil
Nacional has never been bottled in magnum, from what I've been told. So if you find one....run the other way.