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Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:34 pm
by Roy Hersh
So did Sandeman's Founder's Reserve or Fonseca Bin 27 have Vintage Character on the label in the UK, Tom?

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:20 am
by Tom Archer
So did Sandeman's Founder's Reserve or Fonseca Bin 27 have Vintage Character on the label in the UK, Tom?
Sandemans FR I don't know as it's rarely seen in the UK. Bin 27 didn't.

IIRC, Churchill and the Wine Society own label sold ports here as 'Vintage character'

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:14 pm
by Allan Engelsted Laurents
[quote="Andy Velebil"] Crusted Ports can be referred to as "I've got some left over stuff not good enough for VP, what do i do with it, I know lets blend some together and get rid of it." Of course, that's a satirical comment but is it far off?

Sorry Andy..... [cheers.gif] I just landed the "Crusted port".
I guess the guy in the cellar, back in October 1940, said to himself, "this bad VP from 1931....I better get rid of it"
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Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:15 pm
by Allan Engelsted Laurents
This is the front.. Couldnt fit it in...

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:42 pm
by Bradley Bogdan
Surprised he had glass to bottle it in! Very cool bottle, as usual, Allan!


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Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:05 pm
by Andy Velebil
Bradley Bogdan wrote:Surprised he had glass to bottle it in! Very cool bottle, as usual, Allan!


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Well, it was the depression so he had to something with it. :wink: :lol:

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:04 am
by Bradley Bogdan
Andy Velebil wrote:
Bradley Bogdan wrote:Surprised he had glass to bottle it in! Very cool bottle, as usual, Allan!


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Well, it was the depression so he had to something with it. :wink: :lol:
If I were depressed, I'd drink the good stuff. Maybe that's how he ended up blending two vintages? Drinking and bottling is probably a dangerous combo haha.


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Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:33 pm
by Andy Velebil
Bradley Bogdan wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:
Bradley Bogdan wrote:Surprised he had glass to bottle it in! Very cool bottle, as usual, Allan!


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Well, it was the depression so he had to something with it. :wink: :lol:
If I were depressed, I'd drink the good stuff. Maybe that's how he ended up blending two vintages? Drinking and bottling is probably a dangerous combo haha.


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Maybe he was drunk and it was a mistake. Thus a new category was born??

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:02 am
by Allan Engelsted Laurents
:thanks:
Andy and Bradley. Or is it rather Check and Chong [friends.gif]

Here I find the perhaps first Crusted port in history. Being made by the most Holy of All grapes, the 1931 harvest.

If I ever find You guys.........I will :beat:

All the Best from the Danish
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Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:18 am
by Andy Velebil
Allan Engelsted Laurents wrote::thanks:
Andy and Bradley. Or is it rather Check and Chong [friends.gif]

Here I find the perhaps first Crusted port in history. Being made by the most Holy of All grapes, the 1931 harvest.

If I ever find You guys.........I will :beat:

All the Best from the Danish
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Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:30 pm
by John Trombley
Here is an interesting price point. An internet auction company, which shall remain nameless, has for perhaps about 6 months been listing a case of the 1978 bottling of the Taylor Crusted for sale, with it seems little interest. (You had to click on the image, and blow it up, to see the bottling date; it was not listed on the lot information.) It was originally at a minimum bid of an outlandish $100 per bottle. It's now at $50 per bottle, and still hasn't sold out. As far as I can discover, there isn't a single critical review of this wine, or any other Taylor Crusted.

This goes to show you what problems this aspect of the market faces. Sometimes I find the Crusteds a very fine buy, perhaps at least as good as a better LBV., sometimes not. You can't tell unless you've tasted one whether even $25 a bottle is reasonable. Certainly an emphasis on the bottling date would be a step in the right direction! And submission of samples to critics so that we can get a read about what the bottling in question is worth.

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:06 pm
by Moses Botbol
John Trombley wrote:Here is an interesting price point. An internet auction company, which shall remain nameless, has for perhaps about 6 months been listing a case of the 1978 bottling of the Taylor Crusted for sale, with it seems little interest. (You had to click on the image, and blow it up, to see the bottling date; it was not listed on the lot information.) It was originally at a minimum bid of an outlandish $100 per bottle. It's now at $50 per bottle, and still hasn't sold out. As far as I can discover, there isn't a single critical review of this wine, or any other Taylor Crusted.
I have a few bottles of this. It is sweet, kind of simple with spearmint and lingering spirit... Decent enough port to enjoy by itself; falls short compared to their regular vintage port.

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:27 pm
by John Trombley
Thanks, Moses. Is this the same bottling date?

Re: Expansion of a Port category?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:48 pm
by Moses Botbol
John Trombley wrote:Thanks, Moses. Is this the same bottling date?
1978 Taylor Crusted. I knew it was around then, so I went into the cellar to verify and it's the same bottle.