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Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:25 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Image      #23 is the favourite of PhilW, my second-favourite, and liked by GEE.

Image      #19 the favourite of ADV.

Image      #17 the favourite of GEE.

Image      #24 might be the other favourite of GEE.

Image      #25 is JDAW’s preference, being marginally preferred to #23.

Image      #26 requested by DRT.

Image      And an honourable mention for the old favicon (also designed by me).

Perhaps Roy could do a poll of these (minus those he dislikes).

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:41 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
I’ve made a new version of #23, visually identical, but reducing the size of the file by 12%.

Image      = old

Image      = new

I’ll do the same file-size-reduction for whichever is selected (and if #23 is selected, please could the IT people use the new smaller file).

Also, as #23 is my favourite, a 24× zoom is shown below, as if on a white background.
Image

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:16 am
by Glenn E.
I do also like #24, but I'm coming 'round to #23 now. It does look more compact and tidy with the letters below the bottles.

The current icon is also still good. 8--)

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:36 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:23      =      Image      which, on a white background =      Image

24      =      Image

25      =      Image
Just added, #25, a variant of #23, with added white edging.

On a different background: 23 = Image      25 = Image

In the 24× zoom grey checks represent transparency. (In the zoom of #23, two posts ago, all white pixels are transparent.)

Image

I marginally prefer #25 to #23, but it is close.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:00 am
by Glenn E.
In this thread, on this background (a semi-grey light blue for me), I prefer #23 to #25. But on a darker background I suspect I might prefer #25 for clarity.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:36 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Glenn E. wrote:In this thread, on this background (a semi-grey light blue for me), I prefer #23 to #25. But on a darker background I suspect I might prefer #25 for clarity.
Some candidate favicons are tested against some background colours in www.jdawiseman.com/2014/201402_ftlop_favicon.html.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:57 am
by Glenn E.
I'm somewhat surprised to find that I prefer 23/24 to 25 on all of the tested colors.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:23 pm
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:I marginally prefer #25 to #23, but it is close.
Glenn E. wrote:I'm somewhat surprised to find that I prefer 23/24 to 25 on all of the tested colors.
Your preference seems stronger than mine, so wins.

#23 versus #24: I much prefer letters below. How strong is your preference? If strong, a moderator’s preference outranks the designer’s preference. If not strong, designer’s strong preference wins.
Glenn E. wrote:tested colors
If you want other colours tested, please specify which.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:08 am
by Phil W
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:I marginally prefer #25 to #23, but it is close.
Glenn E. wrote:I'm somewhat surprised to find that I prefer 23/24 to 25 on all of the tested colors.
Your preference seems stronger than mine, so wins.
Good - I didn't like the effect of #25 on non-white backgrounds. #23/#24 superior to #17 for me, for the same reason.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:20 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
#23 or #24?   Image or Image ?   Letters below or above?   Just noticed, on the front page:
Image

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:47 am
by Derek T.
Perhaps you should lose the labels on the favicon bottles to make them more similar to the main site logo?

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:18 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:26      =      Image
Added. I prefer #23, but could live with #26. YMMV.

Edit:
Image

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:58 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Roy Hersh wrote:I could certainly live with #4 if it had a capital "O" instead of our current favicon. I said I'd keep an open mind.
The ‘O’ has been capitalised.

Roy: could you live with #23 = Image or with #25 = Image or with #26 = Image ?

Edit: don’t forget to look at them on various backgrounds.
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:Some candidate favicons are tested against some background colours in www.jdawiseman.com/2014/201402_ftlop_favicon.html.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:19 am
by Glenn E.
My phone isn't displaying gifs so I can't comment on the new ones, but I'm coming 'round to letters below between 23 and 24. It is more compact and matches the front page logo.

Re: New FTLOP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:38 pm
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Roy Hersh, by private message, wrote:26 is my favorite. No question about it.
So we have a decision: Image it is.

The files are at:
Image www.jdawiseman.com/2014/20140215_ftlop_favicon_26.gif
Image www.jdawiseman.com/2014/20140216_ftlop_favicon_26.ico

Please use the former for on-page graphics, in particular, as a emoticon. Please could the emoticon not have the BBcode :ftlop: as changing the meaning of that BBcode would edit the posts of people who have used it. Perhaps :ftlop2014: would be acceptable. Though the old graphic could cease to appear on the list of emoticons.

(Edited to change the .ico link to point to the new version with transparency. I didn’t know until a few hours ago that .ico supported transparency.)

Re: New FTLOP favicon?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:52 pm
by Roy Hersh
Yes, 26 it is, thank you Julian!

Re: New FTLOP favicon?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:47 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Done, by David Spriggs: thank you.

Not working for you? Most browsers rarely re-load a favicon, because they change so rarely. So open www.fortheloveofport.com/favicon.ico in a new tab, and reload reload reload until it updates. Then it the browser will be using the new.

Re: New FTLOP favicon?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:55 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:Image www.jdawiseman.com/2014/20140216_ftlop_favicon_26.ico

(Edited to change the .ico link to point to the new version with transparency. I didn’t know until a few hours ago that .ico supported transparency.)
Edit: link to previous thread on this subject.

Re: New FTLOP favicon?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:11 am
by David Spriggs
The new ico with transparency has been uploaded.