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Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:25 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman

#23 is the favourite of PhilW, my second-favourite, and liked by GEE.

#19 the favourite of ADV.

#17 the favourite of GEE.

#24 might be the other favourite of GEE.

#25 is JDAW’s preference, being marginally preferred to #23.

#26 requested by DRT.

And an honourable mention for the old favicon (also designed by me).
Perhaps Roy could do a poll of these (minus those he dislikes).
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:41 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
I’ve made a new version of #23, visually identical, but reducing the size of the file by 12%.

= old

= new
I’ll do the same file-size-reduction for whichever is selected (and if #23 is selected, please could the IT people use the new smaller file).
Also, as #23 is my favourite, a 24× zoom is shown below, as if on a white background.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:16 am
by Glenn E.
I do also like #24, but I'm coming 'round to #23 now. It does look more compact and tidy with the letters below the bottles.
The current icon is also still good.

Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:36 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:23 =

which, on a white background =
24 =
25 =

Just added, #25, a variant of #23, with added white edging.
On a different background: 23 =

25 =
In the 24× zoom grey checks represent transparency. (In the zoom of #23, two posts ago, all white pixels are transparent.)
I marginally prefer #25 to #23, but it is close.
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:00 am
by Glenn E.
In this thread, on this background (a semi-grey light blue for me), I prefer #23 to #25. But on a darker background I suspect I might prefer #25 for clarity.
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:36 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Glenn E. wrote:In this thread, on this background (a semi-grey light blue for me), I prefer #23 to #25. But on a darker background I suspect I might prefer #25 for clarity.
Some candidate favicons are tested against some background colours in
www.jdawiseman.com/2014/201402_ftlop_favicon.html.
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:57 am
by Glenn E.
I'm somewhat surprised to find that I prefer 23/24 to 25 on all of the tested colors.
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:23 pm
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:I marginally prefer #25 to #23, but it is close.
Glenn E. wrote:I'm somewhat surprised to find that I prefer 23/24 to 25 on all of the tested colors.
Your preference seems stronger than mine, so wins.
#23 versus #24: I much prefer letters below. How strong is your preference? If strong, a moderator’s preference outranks the designer’s preference. If not strong, designer’s strong preference wins.
Glenn E. wrote:tested colors
If you want other colours tested, please specify which.
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:08 am
by Phil W
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:I marginally prefer #25 to #23, but it is close.
Glenn E. wrote:I'm somewhat surprised to find that I prefer 23/24 to 25 on all of the tested colors.
Your preference seems stronger than mine, so wins.
Good - I didn't like the effect of #25 on non-white backgrounds. #23/#24 superior to #17 for me, for the same reason.
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:20 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
#23 or #24?

or

? Letters below or above? Just noticed, on the front page:

Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:47 am
by Derek T.
Perhaps you should lose the labels on the favicon bottles to make them more similar to the main site logo?
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:18 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:26 =

Added. I prefer #23, but could live with #26. YMMV.
Edit:

Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:58 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Roy Hersh wrote:I could certainly live with #4 if it had a capital "O" instead of our current favicon. I said I'd keep an open mind.
The ‘O’ has been capitalised.
Roy: could you live with #23 =

or with #25 =

or with #26 =

?
Edit: don’t forget to look at them on various backgrounds.
Re: New FTLoP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:19 am
by Glenn E.
My phone isn't displaying gifs so I can't comment on the new ones, but I'm coming 'round to letters below between 23 and 24. It is more compact and matches the front page logo.
Re: New FTLOP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:38 pm
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Roy Hersh, by private message, wrote:26 is my favorite. No question about it.
So we have a decision:

it is.
The files are at:
•
www.jdawiseman.com/2014/20140215_ftlop_favicon_26.gif
•
www.jdawiseman.com/2014/20140216_ftlop_favicon_26.ico
Please use the former for on-page graphics, in particular, as a emoticon. Please could the emoticon
not have the BBcode

as changing the meaning of that BBcode would edit the posts of people who have used it. Perhaps

would be acceptable. Though the old graphic could cease to appear on the list of emoticons.
(Edited to change the .ico link to point to the new version with transparency. I didn’t know until a few hours ago that .ico supported transparency.)
Re: New FTLOP favicon?
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:52 pm
by Roy Hersh
Yes, 26 it is, thank you Julian!
Re: New FTLOP favicon?
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:47 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Done, by
David Spriggs: thank you.
Not working for you? Most browsers rarely re-load a favicon, because they change so rarely. So open
www.fortheloveofport.com/favicon.ico in a new tab, and reload reload reload until it updates. Then it the browser will be using the new.
Re: New FTLOP favicon?
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:55 am
by Julian D. A. Wiseman
Re: New FTLOP favicon?
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:11 am
by David Spriggs
The new ico with transparency has been uploaded.