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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:34 pm
by Andy Velebil
The plot thickens....I just won at auction a bottle of 1983 Quinta do Noval Quinta do Silval Vintage Port. When I get the bottle I will post a pick of this.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:03 pm
by Derek T.
Andy Velebil wrote:The plot thickens....I just won at auction a bottle of 1983 Quinta do Noval Quinta do Silval Vintage Port. When I get the bottle I will post a pick of this.
Andy,
Did this turn out to be what it was sold as in the auction catalogue? Do you have a picture of the bottle?
Thanks
Derek
Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:22 pm
by Andy Velebil
yes, it was the same. I've not had it yet. Its in storage so won't be able to get a pic for some time.
Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:00 pm
by Tom Archer
From Alex Liddell's book
'Port Wine Quintas of the Douro' (published 1992)
"The quinta includes several smaller ones: the Quinta da Obra Nova, the Quinta do Marco, the Quinta das Orgueiras and the Quinta de Abrahao (all bought by Luis de Vasconcelos Porto, or before him), the Quinta das Aradas (bought by Cristiano's uncles), and the Quintas das Canadas (bought by Cristiano in 1988). For practical purposes the Quinta do Silval, situated close to Noval, is also counted as part of the quinta"
Thus Noval wines
were a blend of wines from several quintas, some of which were sometimes separately bottled.
More recently (since '97) the wines are said to come from Noval alone, but I recall learning that the current Noval is actually two quintas, seamlessly merged. However I can't immediately find the source of that information. Malvedos (and probably many other quintas) is also the product of merged quintas, so it is probably reasonable to allow merged quintas to be considered 'single'
Tom
Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:50 am
by Andy Velebil
I also have an '83 Noval Quinta do Marco and I plan on opening them side by side to see how they compare to each other.
Many large quintas have aquired neighboring property and expanded over the decades. So Tom, I agree that they have to be considered a "single"
Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:45 am
by Derek T.
Are my eyes deceiving me? Did I just witness Tom and Andy agreeing on something?

- we're all in trouble now :help: :devil:

Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:37 pm
by Andy Velebil
Derek T. wrote:Are my eyes deceiving me? Did I just witness Tom and Andy agreeing on something?

- we're all in trouble now :help: :devil:

Shh, don't tell Tom.

Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:53 am
by Tom Archer
Shh, don't tell Tom
Don't worry, Andy was agreing with me. Now, if it had been the other way around...
Tom
Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:55 am
by Andy Velebil
uncle tom wrote:Shh, don't tell Tom
Don't worry, Andy was agreing with me. Now, if it had been the other way around...
Tom
Don't worry, when I finally get to meet Tom next month I'll be sure to get him good and

that way he agrees with everthing I say about Port

Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:06 pm
by Derek T.
Andy Velebil wrote:uncle tom wrote:Shh, don't tell Tom
Don't worry, Andy was agreing with me. Now, if it had been the other way around...
Tom
Don't worry, when I finally get to meet Tom next month I'll be sure to get him good and

that way he agrees with everthing I say about Port

You obviously haven't met him. The more

he gets the more he

:blah: - debating something connected with port with Tom when he is

= :wall:

Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:23 pm
by Tom Archer
You got that nice shiny new Jag to the hotel OK then..
See you tomorrow..
Tom
Re: Did Quinta do Noval ever make a single quinta
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:04 pm
by Andy Velebil
Derek T. wrote:
You obviously haven't met him. The more

he gets the more he

:blah: - debating something connected with port with Tom when he is

= :wall:


but so can I...I can't wait
