For The Love Of Port

Moses Botbol wrote:Picked up a magnum 2011 Fonseca for $100. The only bottle available. Seems like a solid price.

Yup that’s a good price.

Andy Velebil wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:39 am

Moses Botbol wrote:Picked up a magnum 2011 Fonseca for $100. The only bottle available. Seems like a solid price.

Yup that’s a good price.

I doubt I'll ever drink it. I cannot say no to a magnum. I think I am ~25 port mags.

I think I am ~25 port mags.

Of port I have:

146 Mags
1 Tappit hen
15 Double mags
7 Imperials
2 Salmanazars
3 Nebuchadnezzars

Tom Archer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:01 am

I think I am ~25 port mags.

Of port I have:

146 Mags
1 Tappit hen
15 Double mags
7 Imperials
2 Salmanazars
3 Nebuchadnezzars

I have a 2 tregnums of '63 Dow and double magnum of '77 Taylor as well. Was hoping to have drunk one of the 63's this year. No real port fans have been by this year to warrant opening it. Try again in 2033.

At auction:
2x Noval over 40 yo tawny, bottled in 1975, 3,5cm BC
5x Rocha's over 40 yo tawny, bottled in 1984, 3cm BC or better
Very old bottling, a bit tricky, but at a good price (less than € 50,- per bottle)

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:06 am At auction:
2x Noval over 40 yo tawny, bottled in 1975, 3,5cm BC
5x Rocha's over 40 yo tawny, bottled in 1984, 3cm BC or better
Very old bottling, a bit tricky, but at a good price (less than € 50,- per bottle)

I've invariably had good results with long bottle aged Noval tawnies - great find!

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:06 am Very old bottling, a bit tricky, but at a good price (less than € 50,- per bottle)

40+ + 40+ (just about on the second one). Yes, I'd take a try at that price point. And since you have multiple bottles, it might be fun to try refreshing one with a small bit of younger stuff.

Eric Menchen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:06 pm

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:06 am Very old bottling, a bit tricky, but at a good price (less than € 50,- per bottle)

40+ + 40+ (just about on the second one). Yes, I'd take a try at that price point. And since you have multiple bottles, it might be fun to try refreshing one with a small bit of younger stuff.

I’ll probably open one (or two…) around Christmas. I will keep you posted.

With Mike JW and Lucas we won:

3 x 1992 Churchills Quinta da Agua Alta
9 x 1988 Churchill's Crusted
3 x 1984 Smith Woodhouse LBV
3 x 1984 Warres LBV
8 x 1986 Warres LBV
5 x 1989 Ramos Pinto LBV

Just lots of well aged cellar defenders. Can see these as super Mystery Ports at tastings, too.

1980 Warre's VP
1963 Croft VP
1970 Graham's VP

OWC6 of 2021 Quinta da Romaneira VP (For my daughter)

1x Noval Nacional 2016 at auction
3x Graham's Stone Terraces 2021

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:33 am 1x Noval Nacional 2016 at auction
3x Graham's Stone Terraces 2021

Did the price of Stone Terraces essentially double for you, too?

Suggested retail price in the US increased from $225 to $545!

Fonseca LBV 2016
Quinta do Crasto 2016 VP
Grahams Malvedos 2012 VP

+ some 10 year olds (Quevedo, Grahams, Ferreira etc.)

Glenn E. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:54 am

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:33 am 1x Noval Nacional 2016 at auction
3x Graham's Stone Terraces 2021

Did the price of Stone Terraces essentially double for you, too?

Suggested retail price in the US increased from $225 to $545!

US$ 225?? That was a bargain! Lowest price in Europe (including appr. 20% VAT/Sales Tax) was around US$ 300. I bought nine bottles in three different batches and paid between US$ 300 and US$ 325 each. On Winesearcher one can still find them for this price in the UK, Denmark and Portugal. There is some upward pressure, though.

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:01 am

Glenn E. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:54 am

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:33 am 1x Noval Nacional 2016 at auction
3x Graham's Stone Terraces 2021

Did the price of Stone Terraces essentially double for you, too?

Suggested retail price in the US increased from $225 to $545!

US$ 225?? That was a bargain! Lowest price in Europe (including appr. 20% VAT/Sales Tax) was around US$ 300. I bought nine bottles in three different batches and paid between US$ 300 and US$ 325 each. On Winesearcher one can still find them for this price in the UK, Denmark and Portugal. There is some upward pressure, though.

At the moment you can buy then for € 267.96 at Garrafeira Nacional, Black Friday 20% discount (normal price €334.95)

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:01 am US$ 225?? That was a bargain! Lowest price in Europe (including appr. 20% VAT/Sales Tax) was around US$ 300. I bought nine bottles in three different batches and paid between US$ 300 and US$ 325 each. On Winesearcher one can still find them for this price in the UK, Denmark and Portugal. There is some upward pressure, though.

Not sure which Stone Terrace vintage, but I have seen ~$200 local to me a few weeks ago at a B&M. Maybe I should pick one up!

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:01 am

Glenn E. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:54 am

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:33 am 1x Noval Nacional 2016 at auction
3x Graham's Stone Terraces 2021

Did the price of Stone Terraces essentially double for you, too?

Suggested retail price in the US increased from $225 to $545!

US$ 225?? That was a bargain! Lowest price in Europe (including appr. 20% VAT/Sales Tax) was around US$ 300. I bought nine bottles in three different batches and paid between US$ 300 and US$ 325 each. On Winesearcher one can still find them for this price in the UK, Denmark and Portugal. There is some upward pressure, though.

$225 was the first 4 vintages. Those were around 125 GBP in England, so $225 didn't feel like a terribly good bargain to me! That was also without VAT because I was buying in bond to be shipped to the US.

For the 2021 vintage it looks like the Symingtons have increased the suggested price to around 225 GBP or 250 EUR. But then $545 in the US!

Vintage does matter on the older ones. 2011s are significantly more expensive these days, and that's if you can find them. 2015s are the least expensive, with 2016 and 2017 following. You can find 2015s for less than $200 pretty regularly.

Paul C. Metman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:19 am

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:01 am

Glenn E. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:54 am

Did the price of Stone Terraces essentially double for you, too?

Suggested retail price in the US increased from $225 to $545!

US$ 225?? That was a bargain! Lowest price in Europe (including appr. 20% VAT/Sales Tax) was around US$ 300. I bought nine bottles in three different batches and paid between US$ 300 and US$ 325 each. On Winesearcher one can still find them for this price in the UK, Denmark and Portugal. There is some upward pressure, though.

At the moment you can buy then for € 267.96 at Garrafeira Nacional, Black Friday 20% discount (normal price €334.95)

Unfortunately their prices do not include VAT. So add another 23% to this price (EC countries only).

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:29 am

Paul C. Metman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:19 am

A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:01 am

US$ 225?? That was a bargain! Lowest price in Europe (including appr. 20% VAT/Sales Tax) was around US$ 300. I bought nine bottles in three different batches and paid between US$ 300 and US$ 325 each. On Winesearcher one can still find them for this price in the UK, Denmark and Portugal. There is some upward pressure, though.

At the moment you can buy then for € 267.96 at Garrafeira Nacional, Black Friday 20% discount (normal price €334.95)

Unfortunately their prices do not include VAT. So add another 23% to this price (EC countries only).

Sorry, but that is incorrect! All their prices include VAT and I am completely sure: I'm a regular customer of GN !!