Three bottles of Noval '31 (in separate lots) will be auctioned by Christie's at the Paris Ritz on June 6th.
The lot numbers are 1190-1193.
Levels are base of neck, bottles have embossed metal capsules stamped A.J.S.
Guide price is 1500 - 2000 euros each, but the bottles are being sold without reserve!
I might just stick a silly little bid in - you never know
Tom
Noval '31 for sale
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I hope you get the bottles for a silly price Tom. Great stuff if you can nab it. I am skeptical when I see bottles without RESERVE prices at auction. Then again I am frequently skeptical about MOST bottles at auction anyway.
Sorry to have to move this, but it really is a MARKETPLACE type of thread.
Sorry to have to move this, but it really is a MARKETPLACE type of thread.
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Roy,
If I was reporting a sale of Gonzalez Byass '75, I would agree that it should be a marketplace item. But 3 bottles of Noval '31 is such a rarity, I thought it worthy of the main forum!
I know your distrust of auctions, but there's very little old wine traded that hasn't gone under the hammer at some point.
Wine merchants are at best illusionists, and at worst shysters
Tom
If I was reporting a sale of Gonzalez Byass '75, I would agree that it should be a marketplace item. But 3 bottles of Noval '31 is such a rarity, I thought it worthy of the main forum!
I know your distrust of auctions, but there's very little old wine traded that hasn't gone under the hammer at some point.
Wine merchants are at best illusionists, and at worst shysters
Tom
I agree with you on most points and especially about the rarity factor of the '31s ... but with the "topic moved" left in the Port Forum ... people will see the 1931 Noval and naturally follow it here. 8)
Believe it or not, I do buy "gray market" older bottles and have purchased from auctions quite a bit in the 1990s.
Believe it or not, I do buy "gray market" older bottles and have purchased from auctions quite a bit in the 1990s.
Ambition driven by passion, rather than money, is as strong an elixir as is Port. http://www.fortheloveofport.com
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Sorry, hadn't seen all this when I posted the following on the main forum. Seems there is a glut of Noval and NN '31 just now!:
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There are three bottles of NN '31 for sale at Christies next month (sale 7242). Plus some 66. Plus whole cases of Dow 45 and Graham 48 .
If only those lotto numbers would come up in the next few weeks........ "
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There are three bottles of NN '31 for sale at Christies next month (sale 7242). Plus some 66. Plus whole cases of Dow 45 and Graham 48 .
If only those lotto numbers would come up in the next few weeks........ "
Stuart Chatfield London, England
As you do when you're bored, you play around on the internet and look to see what is happening in the wine world. I came across the fact that Sotheby's in New York sold 11 bottles of Quinta do Noval 1931 at auction on Saturday.
The bottles came from the cellar of Russell H Frye - who Serena Sutcliffe gushed about in her intro to the sale - so I guess that they have been well cellared and well cared for. These sold for £1,960 per bottle (levels into neck), £1,550 per bottle (top shoulder), £1,305 per bottle (base of neck), £925 per bottle (top shoulder) and £635 per bottle (top shoulder, believed QdN 1931). Prices include buyer's premium.
The Paris guide price of Euro 1,500 - 2,000 (£1,260 - £1,680 including buyers premium) looks realistic for three bottles that appear to be in pretty good condition when compared to the Sotheby's sale.
Tom - I've sent you a PM.
Alex
The bottles came from the cellar of Russell H Frye - who Serena Sutcliffe gushed about in her intro to the sale - so I guess that they have been well cellared and well cared for. These sold for £1,960 per bottle (levels into neck), £1,550 per bottle (top shoulder), £1,305 per bottle (base of neck), £925 per bottle (top shoulder) and £635 per bottle (top shoulder, believed QdN 1931). Prices include buyer's premium.
The Paris guide price of Euro 1,500 - 2,000 (£1,260 - £1,680 including buyers premium) looks realistic for three bottles that appear to be in pretty good condition when compared to the Sotheby's sale.
Tom - I've sent you a PM.
Alex
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I got an email from the owner of a SQ this a.m. requesting my help to find a friend of his father's a bottle of 1931 Nacional. He mentioned price is no object. Until I saw this thread, I had no idea where I'd turn to let him know. Thanks guys. I love this place!
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