For The Love Of Port

I love port but I'm not too good at articulating what I am tasting. I think it would add to my enjoyment if I were able to have more meaningful conversations with my brothers and friends when we open a VP, LBV or aged tawny. I also think it would help me figure out what I like best and decide what my next purchases will be. Unfortunately I don't know a lot of people in the area who are into port. (My brothers live in D.C.) Are there people in the Boston area who meet regularly (or irregularly) to sample ports and share opinions? I imagine everyone brings a bottle or half bottle, or we alternate bringing bottles. I am fine with whatever the expectation is -- just don't make me bring one of my last two '77 Taylors to the first meeting!

Best regards,
Jim Chicoski

Jim,

to the forum and you've come to the right place. We've got several members from your area who are very good people so hopefully things work out so you can meet up and learn from each other. Don't worry about bringing the 1977 to the first meeting, do you have a 1900 VP you could bring instead Ok I'm just kidding there I know Moses drinks all kinds of Ports and wines and hopefully you can get him to part with one if his Vesuvio bottles so he can finally experience it.

And I need to add, please don't hesitate to ask this group any question you may have. We're a friendly bunch, a little weird at times, but very friendly I assure you and no question is too small to ask.

Did someone mention drinking port in the Boston area? I am always down for an "off-line", be it formal or casual. Generally, we each bring a bottle depending on what the nature of event will be; vintage, house, style, etc... If someone does not have a bottle, we'll credit the people who do have a bottle with the lowest wine-searcher price available and divide the total cost. I am not exclusive to port; there are many styles of wine I like and don't foget the cigars!

I can host up to 4 people as my condo is small, but have enough port glasses (probably over 100) to put a decent event together.

Andy, still too gun shy to open any of the Vesuvios!

Feel free to IM me and we can work on a port tasting, or more like port drinking! I store a lot of wine off site. Right now, the best port I have on hand is 1970 Warre and 1970 Sandeman Magnum which we could open for sure. I know a couple other collectors who would like to join in too.

Salut Jim ,
Although I'm not from the Boston area ( 6 hours due north ) , have attended an offline with Moses .
What makes my post ironic is Andy gave me my avatar and my avatar was a direct result of the offline with Moses . . .
AH those were the days

Luc Gauthier wrote:Salut Jim ,
Although I'm not from the Boston area ( 6 hours due north ) , have attended an offline with Moses .
What makes my post ironic is Andy gave me my avatar and my avatar was a direct result of the offline with Moses . . .
AH those were the days

You're scaring him now! Jim will learn the rule "no one leaves until all the port is gone."

Port drinkers are a fraternity and you know about the hazing fraternities do, lol...

Moses Botbol wrote: You're scaring him now! Jim will learn the rule "no one leaves until all the port is gone."

Port drinkers are a fraternity and you know about the hazing fraternities do, lol...

Please leave the sheep at the farm this time, hazing has been outlawed

Yes, there are a few port drinkers here in the Boston area. I haven't, yet, attended an offline but I haven't seen any scheduled recently.

Luc, we manage to make it to Montreal a few times a year as well. I guess I should keep my eyes and ears open when we make our way north.

Dan

I'm not in the business of scaring .
But then again , you must consider the source .
We're talking about a guy who thought Port and peanut butter was a great mix
Fortunately showed me the light

No one has scared me away yet. In my opinion port goes great with anything...or nothing at all!

Snowstorm is coming tonight, people, make sure you stock up on bread, milk and LBVs!

Jim C. wrote:No one has scared me away yet. In my opinion port goes great with anything...or nothing at all!

Snowstorm is coming tonight, people, make sure you stock up on bread, milk and LBVs!

I like you're thinking

I'm an hour north in Durham NH, an enormous Port fan, and often drive to Boston for wine events.
Haven't been very active here lately other than some lurking though! And of course drinking.

I live near sheep, goats, cows, and Llamas, but rarely bring them to tastings :)
Although that said, I cooked some duck, goat, sheep, and cow for my last wine party - unfortunately I have no where to host right now, although I sometimes have access spring/fall to a waterfront location south of Portland Maine - last time NO one drove home, or even made it out the front door. It was the final mag of 77 Warres that stopped any silly ideas of driving home.

Luc Gauthier wrote:AH those were the days

I have been rebuilding some Ferreira stock, ready for another vertical. I have 1977, 1980, 1983, 1985, and 1994. There could be a few others since I don't have a record inventory of my collection.

Moses Botbol wrote:

Luc Gauthier wrote:AH those were the days

I have been rebuilding some Ferreira stock, ready for another vertical. I have 1977, 1980, 1983, 1985, and 1994. There could be a few others since I don't have a record inventory of my collection.

Pretty sure I've got a 55 Ferreira

Port get-together
My new Boston port friends
While it's still winter

I hope my haiku jump-starts a Boston port drinking event soon!

I can host, although I have never hosted before and not met anyone. I live in Newton, MA.

Jim

I live in Brookline, and I'd also be interested in a tasting event. I'm just getting into Port, it would be a great way to meet some experienced drinkers. So how do these events typically work? Everyone bring something, or do we all chip in some money?

It all depends on what theme what the tasting to be. What are some of the vintages or houses you'd like to do?

Typically, there are costs beyond just the port (food, other wine if any, etc...) Let's decide a on a theme and we can see who has what and go from there. I know a couple of collectors who are not on the site and would like to attend. I am familiar with their collections so I know what they can provide.

An 80's vintage free-for-all would be an easy one or a particular house like Dow, Taylor, Graham is easy too.

OK, how about Dow vertical? I always seem to like their ports more than, say, Graham's. Maybe someone can help me understand why!

Salut Jim ,

If memory serves , Dow allows the fermentation process longer .
The longer the fermentation process , the dryier the port .
Grahams ports are typicaly sweeter than most .

Jim C. wrote:OK, how about Dow vertical? I always seem to like their ports more than, say, Graham's. Maybe someone can help me understand why!

Dow's reputation is for drier Ports, while Graham's reputation is for sweeter Ports. This is all relative, though, because even a Dow Port is very sweet compared to a typical red wine.

As I recall, Roy has told me that the actual difference in sugar content between Dow and Graham is typically no more than 1-2 grams/liter for similar Ports. I also have a vague memory of reading somewhere that the residual sugar content of Port is typically about 70 grams/liter (vs 6-7 for red wine), so you're looking at a relatively small difference between Dow and Graham.

Side-by-side, it's darn impossible to taste a difference in dryness between Dow, Graham, and Vesuvio. 1985 Dow is their “driest” recent vintage to me.

Anyone down for a casual port night tomorrow?