Glenn E. wrote:Late March seems to be a popular time frame. I'm busy helping deplete the Port reserves of NYC the weekend of St. Patrick's Day (3/16-3/18), but the next weekend would work great.
Roy Hersh wrote:I feel very strongly that these 5 should definitely be in the mix and should be able to be found everywhere. If you can't find them locally, they can be found easily on the www. My only question is: Do we want to add Ruby Reserve bottle number 6 for the tasting (or keep it simple @ 5) and if moving to six, can we agree on which it should be?
a. Graham's Six Grapes
b. Noval Black
c. Cockburn's Special Reserve
d. Fonseca Bin 27
e. Warre's Warrior
I understand Derek's disagreement to the Warre's because of having-three-from-the-Symington's rationale, which does make a lot of sense. Regardless of that fact, I think these are vital to the mix because of how prominent their sales are. Cockburn's is in fact, the leading seller in the world when it comes to any single bottling of Port (unless we look at really cheap plonk that nobody here would consider sipping unless they were forced to live on the street and use it for "nourishment."
I would rather add a sixth to the mix than remove one of these five stalwarts, if we are trying to show that there is no favoritism being played. For me, there is not, in fact I could care less who owns these and Cockburn's is still in diapers when it comes to the Symington's ownership of that historic company. So while I truly understand trying to be fair and balanced, I am just trying to get at which 5 or 6 Ruby Reservas are the best selling in the world's key markets and let's get them tasted blind so we can have some statistics to draw from about preferences by Port enthusiasts who have palates that we can rely on more than the average person who may pick up one of these because they have heard the name before.
So IF there is to be a 6th added, which should it be? Or again, do we just stick to 5?
Roy Hersh wrote:I am just trying to get at which 5 or 6 Ruby Reservas are the best selling in the world's key markets
Andy Velebil wrote:Taylor's First Estate is generally pretty easy to get here. The rest, not so easy. Terra Prima is very hard and De La Rosa is super hard, as are many of the others.
Andy Velebil wrote:TO keep this simple, here is the list with what is easy or hard to get in the USA in ()
Churchill Reserve (hard)
Cockburn Special Reserve (easy)
Croft Distinction (a bit hard, but depends)
Croft Triple Crown (never seen it sold here)
Delaforce Paramount (never seen it sold here)
Dow Midnight (never seen it sold here)
Dow Trademark (Can be easy depending)
Fonseca Bin 27 (easy)
Fonseca Terra Prima (Hard)
Graham Six Grapes (easy)
Noval Black (not super easy, but fairly easy)
de la Rosa Finest Reserve (Hard)
Ramos Pinto Collector (fairly easy)
Sandeman Founders Reserve (Easy)
Taylor First Estate (easy)
Warre Warrior (easy)
I hope that helps us in narrowing down what is easily available on both sides of the pond so we can do this.
Roy Hersh wrote:Glenn, several of your selections are just plain Ruby Ports and not Reserve Ruby and therefore won't make the cut.
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