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Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:53 am
by Christian Gollnick
"Dear Santa, I hope that all is well with you and that you will not experience too much stress over the next weeks. This year I make it very simple and I don't ask you for World Peace or the perfect harvest in the Douro like I did in the last years. This year I settle for one little thing: The Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó. As I hear, it has closed in the beginning of November and it might not open again, if nobody buys the property... EUR 1 million are asked for it. Okay, Santa, I understand that this seems to be a large amount, but... it's Christmas. And the EURO might blow up anytime, too... And do you know what? - If you give me this little property, I will donate it! I will donate it to FTLOP - so that our community has finally it's own hang-out in the Douro-Valley! Come on, Santa! I have been very nice this year... I think I deserve a place like that - I think FTLOP deserves a place like that!

Thanks a lot,
Christian

p.s.: Don't worry about the ribbon - you don't need to gift-wrap the building.


On a more serious note: The crisis obviously doesn't distinguish between wealthy and not so wealthy - this hotel, which was supposed to be pretty upscale (unfortunately I have never stayed there) is obviously in financial trouble. We have seen a whole lot of new hotels being opened in the Douro over the last years - so maybe there is now already an over-supply in the market? Considering that 20 years ago there was not even one hotel in the Douro (as far as I know) it's amazing how many places to stay are now available. I really hope that this property will open for the next season - it would be a pity to lose this iconic place.
Here is the link to the newspaper-article:
http://fugas.publico.pt/Noticias/313630 ... o-de-euros

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:08 am
by Roy Hersh
I have a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management and have worked in some nice hotels in the past. I say, we get 20 people to each put in 60K Euros and buy this property, and have 200k left as working capital. [friends.gif] Like dreaming of a white Christmas!

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:34 pm
by Daniel R.
i spent a weekend at the pousada, maybe in 2002. very pleasant but a bit run down at the time. i'm in Christian, vamos set up a company based in Cayman and buy it!

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:57 pm
by Eric Menchen
Seems like a steal at that price, but you will have to invest in some upgrades. TripAdvisor agrees with Daniel:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserRevi ... tugal.html

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:01 am
by Carl D
Roy Hersh wrote:I have a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management and have worked in some nice hotels in the past. I say, we get 20 people to each put in 60K Euros and buy this property, and have 200k left as working capital. [friends.gif] Like dreaming of a white Christmas!
Is there any real interest in doing this?

Wouldn't it be great to have the FTLOP hotel in the Duoro!

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:39 pm
by Eric Ifune
I thought we were saving up to buy that huge hole in the ground across the street from the Weise & Krohn lodge! :drunk:

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:34 pm
by David Spriggs
When do we need to put our money in? :-)

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:12 pm
by Luc Gauthier
Christian , your heart is definitely in the right place :winepour:

BTW when was the last time their was snow in the Cayman Islands ?
We just got 45 cm dumped on us in 12 hours .

Les joies de l'hiver :wink: :winebath:

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:53 am
by Ronald Wortel
Roy Hersh wrote:I have a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management
So do I. See, we have a management team already. :wink:

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:45 am
by Andy Velebil
Ronald Wortel wrote:
Roy Hersh wrote:I have a degree in Hotel and Restaurant Management
So do I. See, we have a management team already. :wink:
I have a degree in hotel drinking. Now we've got a real management team! [rotfl.gif]

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:58 pm
by Roy Hersh
As long as we don't let Andy cook, we won't be scaring away any of the guests!

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:21 pm
by Eric Menchen
I'll cook. Do you think we can put a brewery on the property too?

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:32 pm
by Christian Gollnick
I know that our hotel will have the best wine-cellar EVER... We might spend $100k to remodel the hotel - but we will spend at least ten times more to re-stock the wine-cellar...
On the other side, my big fear is that there might be too many Americans involved in our hotel project. Within a few weeks Alijo will look like an amusement-park... It will be called "Euro-Vegas". There will be tons of neon-signs with "BEST TAWNY IN TOWN" and "COLHEITAS 50% OFF - ONLY HERE" and "DRIVE-THROUGH VINTAGE SHOP". In the hotel garden there will be an attraction "Wine-Splash-Mountain" where visitors sitting in old barrels will be pushed down into a lake of cheap Spanish red wine...
The Douro will never be the same...

[cheers.gif]

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:32 pm
by Glenn E.
I can help Eric cook. I'm also a PMI-certified Project Management Professional, in case we need to undertake any property improvement projects. [cheers.gif]

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:35 pm
by Eric Menchen
Christian Gollnick wrote:I know that our hotel will have the best wine-cellar EVER... We might spend $100k to remodel the hotel - but we will spend at least ten times more to re-stock the wine-cellar...
I will trade beer brewed for Port. I know at least Oscar will take me up on this.

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:47 pm
by Roy Hersh
Christian,

I believe everything you say above, about the American involvement! [friends.gif]

However, it will also be because of "us" Americans, that the wine cellar and wine list and especially, the Port holdings ... will be so damn good! [dance2.gif]

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:07 pm
by Andy Velebil
Christian Gollnick wrote:I know that our hotel will have the best wine-cellar EVER... We might spend $100k to remodel the hotel - but we will spend at least ten times more to re-stock the wine-cellar...
On the other side, my big fear is that there might be too many Americans involved in our hotel project. Within a few weeks Alijo will look like an amusement-park... It will be called "Euro-Vegas". There will be tons of neon-signs with "BEST TAWNY IN TOWN" and "COLHEITAS 50% OFF - ONLY HERE" and "DRIVE-THROUGH VINTAGE SHOP". In the hotel garden there will be an attraction "Wine-Splash-Mountain" where visitors sitting in old barrels will be pushed down into a lake of cheap Spanish red wine...
The Douro will never be the same...

[cheers.gif]
You forgot about the free gun for every two cases of Port you buy [berserker.gif]

Re: Pousada Barão de Forrester in Alijó for sale

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:08 pm
by Andy Velebil
Roy Hersh wrote:As long as we don't let Andy cook, we won't be scaring away any of the guests!
Hey, I make one mean bowl of cereal :lol: