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FTLOP Christmas Offline

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All,

A few of our regulars are planning to get together near Cambridge, England on 10th December for a Christmas Offline.

The theme will be "Old & Peculiar", which is intended to decribe the wines we will drink but could equally fit as a description of the people you may meet on the night.

If anyone out there is interested in joining us please send me a PM or e-mail for more information. If any non-UK members are interested in joining us I am quite sure we can arranage some transport to and from the various London airports to ease the pain of the trip :wink:

Oh come all ye faithfull 8)


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I would love to come, but the big boss (aka: work) has other plans :cry: Have a great time, and maybe I'll open one on this side of the water and join you virtually :D
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Whereas the Police Dept. in Andy's area has a very difficult time in providing time off for good behavior, they have no problem allowing their officers to partake in virtual Port tastings while on duty. You gotta love this country. :lol:
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Roy Hersh wrote:Whereas the Police Dept. in Andy's area has a very difficult time in providing time off for good behavior, they have no problem allowing their officers to partake in virtual Port tastings while on duty. You gotta love this country. :lol:
We have a name for it...TRAINING :lol: :lol:
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I've got the e-mails but I'm not sure about the date at the moment - I'm in the midst of moving house. Will let you know ASAP.
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Those of us who are now confirmed have agreed on a 4pm kick-off with a planned finish around 8-9pm - this could remove the need for hotel accommodation for those within reasonable distance by train.

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OK - you should all have now read Tom's recent post about the special guest wine that will be appearing at this event - please send me a PM or email if you wish to join in the fun.

Kick-off is now 6pm

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Sorry not ot have made it guys but the move was a nightmare. I've only got back on-line today because I'm at work. Does anybody know a solicitor that they don't mind being used as a sacrifice?

Hope it was a good evening.
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When do we get to read about the evening? I'm also extremely sorry to have missed out but would like to read about the wines, the people and the impressions of a QdN 1931 after 5 days of air time.

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You guys missed a great evening - a big thanks to Tom for his hospitality and some excellent wines :clap:

This turned out to be a very informal gathering and no notes were taken. All but 2 and 3 listed below were tasted blind. From my very hazy memory of the night I believe the line-up went like this:

1. Burmester 40 Yr Old

2. Souza 1937 Colheita (bottled 1973)

3. 3 bottles of Bordeaux (help me out Tom)

4. Taylor's Vargellas 1972

5. Martinez 1967

6. Fonseca 1955

7. Taylor 1963

8. Noval 1931

9. :winepour: :winebath: :drunk: :joker: :blah: :drunk: :help:

Tom, apologies if I got any of these wrong but as you know it was extremely difficult to focus by the end of the evening :wink:

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Very nice to meet you at last Derek - and yes we did indulge...:drunk:

Derek phoned me the following morning for a cab number - I was struggling to see straight - I began to type a report a little later but ran out of steam...

The consumption was not entirely linear, as Trevor and his missus (and Anne, the landlady) drank very small amounts.

The four key participants (me, Derek, Dave & Cookie) therefore each consumed about a bottle and a quarter of port, nearly a bottle of wine, not to mention a couple of pints of ale as a warm up...

We were therefore entitled to be a little fragile the following day - I think the old tawnies were the principal culprits - I felt very overdosed on grape sugar!

Derek's line up is almost right - the Taylor '63 preceded the Fonseca '55 and the three Bordeaux (Cantemarle '75, Branair Ducru '98 and D'Issan '99) were supplemented by a Passadouro '94.

The loose theme was 'old and peculiar'

The 40yr Burmester set a rather high benchmark for an opener - a wine to be sipped rather than guzzled (which, unfortunately, it was..)

Derek's 1937 Souza - labelled as a Tawny, but clearly in the style of a Colheita, was very rich, but a tad tired. It struggled against the Burmester, but was nevertheless a very respectable and interesting bottle.

I included the '72 to have my first encounter with wine from the Alcohol Scandal - coal spirit instead of grape. As we were still relatively sober at that stage, we had quite an interesting discussion as to whether you could tell the difference. You could talk yourself into believing that you could, but in truth, I doubt anyone would identify it tasting blind.

That bottle was very slightly corked - Derek clocked it too, but we agreed that it did no more than take the edge off the bouquet. A competant mature wine, holding up reasonably well, but nothing very noteworthy.

Score (3-2)

I included the Martinez '67 because I can't recall ever opening a bottle from this vintage before. Both at first sip and later, the wine proved to be surprisingly similar to the Vargellas '72, but without the compromised bouquet.

Score 5-4

The Taylor '63 fitted the bill of 'peculiar' very well. It was sold to me as a T' 63, and this was confirmed by the capsule and cork, but neatly scribed on the paint splash it was marked as 'Taylor '45'.

The wine had some Taylor attributes, but it tasted like neither a '63 nor a '45. Derek looked at the moulding of the bottle, and reckoned it was too old for the 1960's.

The wine bore more than a passing resemblance to a 1950 wine - tired and a little hazy. It was very drinkable, but not a kosher T'63

Score (2-1)

Setting aside the last glass of N31 and Derek's half bottle of Kopke '85 which we tackled at the very end ( which was very sound, I recall, even though I was somewhat the worse the wear at that stage...) the last decanter was the Fonseca '55..

What a beauty. The spiciest bouquet I can recall, with a palate to match.

Fully mature, but still on it's plateau. Missed a 10 score by a whisker, and not going south anytime soon.

Score 9-9

Next year we need more people to consume the goodies!

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Oh my God!!! - I didn't even remember the 1945 / 1963 confusion :oops:

I all honesty I think Tom's scores are a bit mean. I certainly think the Vargellas 72 and Martinez 67 were very respectable bottles and one's that I would open again with no hesitation. The V72 was very much a cold night by the fire style of VP - a style that enjoy very much. The Fonseca 55 was truely superb.

All I can say is get yourself along to the 2007 bash and join in the fun 8)

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