Quinta do Noval Nacional 1991

FiloBianco · Post by **FiloBianco** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:07 am

Could anyone help me out on this wine ?

Has anyone tasted this recently ?

Richard Henderson · Post by **Richard Henderson** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:18 pm

I am not sure what you mean by "help you out" but I tried the wine about a year ago. It was a Rare Wine Company purchase. It is very young and very fine. Why do you ask?

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:28 pm

Hi Filo,

Welcome to For The Love Of Port!

I've had this on a few occasions and have some cellared too. They are so young as to be worthy of drinking in two to three decades, unless you are a thrill seeker that likes 'em this young, or have an extra bottle to open now to see how they are doing. Otherwise, leave 'em alone in your cellar.

By the way, where are you from?

FiloBianco · Post by **FiloBianco** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:21 am

I got a couple of bottles at a decent prices. I bought them on the back of a friends review WITHOUT tasting. This is a thing I usually don't do. Plus I am more of a Champagne/Loire/Mosel/White Burg guy so I was wondering if they were that good.

I assume so. I will crack one open over Xmas and post some notes.

Btw what do you guys think about this port and a good stilton (Colston Basset and alike) ?

Al B. · Post by **Al B.** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:17 pm

Personally, with a port this special I would not drink it with any kind of food but enjoy it on its own and with friends and family who will appreciate it.

But if I do have cheese with a young VP it tends not to be a blue cheese but a mature hard cheese such as parmesan or aged gouda. I just love that contrast between the fruit bomb and the fragrance of the cheese.

Mind you, I also confess to enjoying a young VP as a wine to accompany a meal of ham, egg, chips and baked beans

Alex

FiloBianco · Post by **FiloBianco** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:59 am

Any thoughts on the same wine vintage 1975 ?

vitor · Post by **vitor** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:49 am

Hello

Its a Very good wine

Other very nice its the Special Reserva Ferreirinha 1977

Thanks

Vitor

Tom Archer · Post by **Tom Archer** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:25 am

Any thoughts on the same wine vintage 1975

By all accounts this is a respectable, but not stellar, performer - yet trades for silly money on account of the Nacional tag.

Arguably one of the worst QPR's for a vintage port - better rated wines can be bought for a quarter of the price.

Tom

Richard Henderson · Post by **Richard Henderson** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:19 am

Tom,
I agree that so many other ports can be had at better value than Nacional. Yet, when I read of Roy's quest to find the Holy Grail of the 1931 Nacional, I wonder if it is all about qpr. His description of finding and tasting it trancends qpr.

I think we should count oureselves fortunate that the world is for the most part still ignoring port and the price has not skyrocketed.

I note that the current Rare Wine Company price list has 2005 Lafite at $595 and La Mission at $395 per bottle while the 1985 Nacional is $395 and many old Madeiras are $300 or less. For QPR , the 85 Nacional is much better than the Lafite. George Rhys just offered a case of 2001 Petrus at $30,000.00!

I am glad to have my 91 Nacional just to say I have some but there is much more on the market that is better port for a better price but even Nacional is a relative bargain in the high end wine world.