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2000 Quinta do Noval LBV Port
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:54 pm
by Todd Pettinger
Quinta do Noval Late Bottled Vintage – 2000
Traditional, Unfiltered. Decanted off a small amount of sediment, but a lot snuck through as it is so super-fine. I have been searching for a proper place to buy muslin from or unbleached cheesecloth. Not having much luck.
A proper cork, removed with an Ah-so opener reveals a fair amount of staining on the cork – about 1 mm of penetration.
Upon decanting
Dark purple colour, darkened in the center when held at an angle to the light. Meniscus is clear but very tiny, fading to dark red as you look towards the center of the glass. Swirling stains the glass a dark red with decent tears that move a bit more rapidly than a VP but less so than most LBVs. I am coming to love Noval’s LBVs for this dark, concentrated colour.
Huge nose of cherries with some form of raspberry and dark plum. Alcohol is muted compared to the 1997 QdN LBV that I had a couple of weeks ago. Some chocolate/cocoa flavour on the entry. Grape on the follow through. Concentrated, yet mellow tannins with just a hint of alcohol on the after taste – very well integrated indeed. This is a fabulous LBV and I am seriously considering picking up a case or two of it, one for long term to see if/how it develops any further, and one for drinking every few weeks.
More to come!
Todd
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:16 am
by Todd Pettinger
+9 hours
Nose and colour appear to be the same. The spirit may be a bit less integrated, it seems to stand out a tiny bit more that upon opening (up to +2 hours) but it is still very enjoyable.
+21 hours
The wine appears to have darkened. A boysenberry has appeared, ever so slight, on the finish and the alcohol, if it was standing out last night has re-integrated itself just fine. A smooth drinking, rich LBV – one which I will be going back to purchase a case of this very afternoon.
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:32 pm
by Todd Pettinger
+37 hours
The alcohol has become dislodged from its cushion in the wine and is acting out, rebelling against keeping in synch with the rest of the product. This is a tad distracting, and not exactly pleasant. The chocolate and boysenberry flavours have disappeared and the grape is a bit more pronounced. The nose has changed ever so slightly – much more spirity and the fruit (dark cherries in particular) seems to have faded a bit. This appears to be in decline.
I will be saving a glass to determine if another 12-18 hours does any change. Right now, I would have to say that the peak drinkability of this LBV is from opening – 4 hours.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:58 am
by Andy Velebil
Todd, dont feel bad about the alcohol, the 4 vintages of Noval LBV's I've had all showed excesive amounts of alcohol (IMO) that never really seemed to blow off or integrate. For me, it detracted from what otherwise would have been a very good LBV.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:50 am
by Todd Pettinger
Yeah, it started out just fabulously. We'll see if anything happens with it (for the better) tonight. If not, I may just throw the decanter into the basement to 'chill out' for a while and drink while it's a bit below room temp. Should make it go down better. :)
I actually went back for a case or two of this yesterday afternoon, but to my shock, they had put it on sale, 2 bucks off per bottle, and had sold out of it earlier in the day.
Although they also have the 2001 Fonseca Guimaraens that I was speaking of earlier discounted pretty nicely too (first time I have seen any type of VP discounted in Edmonton!) - down from $59/bottle (which is even better than I have found it for at $63/bottle around town normally) to $50/bottle. I'm going to pick up at least one case as soon as they open today. If I had the money for two, I would. Alas...
Todd
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:40 pm
by Todd Pettinger
Quinta do Noval Late Bottled Vintage – 2000
Revisted - 2007.05.20
Decanted off a tad more sediment than I had last time. Was able to get the majority of it and was pleased to see only a very small amount of ultra-fine remains made it into the decanter. Briefly considered running it through a coffee-filter, but it appears I am out of the unbleached variety, my wife still has not learned after 5½ blissful years of marriage and 7 years of living together that the unbleached ones are what we BUY!!!
I noted that besides what little sediment was decanted away into a glass for use in the spaghetti sauce I plan to make tomorrow (the first time I will attempt to add port + sediment to a sauce) there was not as much crust left in the bottle. I had to throw a tad more wine back into the bottle to get it to dislodge from the glass and drain out for use. I had figured there would be a bit more, being an unfiltered LBV, but was disappointed. (I may instead need to open up the Warre’s 85 that is standing on Death Row currently awaiting the execution of its sentence in order to get enough sediment for my sauce.)
Immediately stuck with the tannic hammer noted last time around, along with cherries. This time around I detect a hint of mint on the mid-palate, but what is most disappointing immediately is that this bottle does not seem to be as sweet as I remember. (I prefer a sweeter style port and this bottle does not do for me what I remember the last one doing.)
+2 hours
Drinking very well, alcohol is very tightly integrated and almost non-existent. If you were drinking this on an empty stomach, you might be surprised when you got up after 2-3 glasses as there is no apparent punch at all up front. Dryer than I remember, there is still not a lot of sweetness, just a subtle hint of residual sugar.
+4 hours
I have to admit, I was hoping to be further along in the bottle than this. I previously noted that I thought the peak drinking window for this LBV is from opening to 4 hours, yet I am hardly a third of the way through this one. Still dominated by dark, black fruits, particularly cherries, this port is still very smooth with a finish that lasts a good amount of time. For an LBV, this is pretty complex. Silky mouthfeel, strong tannins, yet mellow alcohol, this is an LBV that will be interesting to track over a few years time to see what developments will occur in-bottle. Based upon the amount of sediment stuck to the bottle, I would expect less than in a VP where I have seen more sediment in a 375 than what I saw in this 750 mL bottle of LBV.
Todd
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:13 pm
by Todd Pettinger
+6 hours
Maybe it is due to the fact that I am tired, perhaps that I have gotten myself a tad tipsy; it is not even beyond the realm of possibility that I am yearning to taste the sweetness that so made me fall in love with this port last time, but I think I taste a bit more of what I am looking for. The sweetness is still muted, no one is going to mistake this for an Aussie tawny or a true Ruby, but it seems to be getting a bit sweeter as the night wears on.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:16 pm
by Todd Pettinger
+14 hours
A quick taste in the morning resulted in similar results to the last time around. The strong fruit flavours seem to be a bit muted at this point, almost a bit dusty. The alcohol shows up a bit more on the finish, but the ending is short and clipped. No longer fabulous at this point.
+18 hours
Another half-ounce for comparison. This is much better than it was a few hours ago. Bittersweet chocolate has shown up, with fresh raspberry and slight influence of blackberry. Alcohol is still very well integrated and the port is still smooth.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:01 pm
by Andy Velebil
I had to throw a tad more wine back into the bottle to get it to dislodge from the glass and drain out for use.
Todd,
My good man, am I reading this right....your using the sediment in your sauce

Can't say I've ever heard of someone doing that before, but so long as it was good I guess :?
BTW, good note on the LBV 8)
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:06 pm
by Todd Pettinger
Andy, I am going to try. I'll let you know if I have to make a quick run to the store to replace the sauce I create with a canned variation to replace it if it doesn't work. Seems to me that it would be a pretty decent addition (along with a cup or so of the port itself.)
Todd
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:09 pm
by Andy Velebil
Todd,
Try tasting the sediment by itself first. You will probably change your mind right quick about adding it into a sauce. It is like licking the dust off an old chalkboard at school.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:34 pm
by Todd Pettinger
Andy,
Now you're giving me pause...

and probably saving me from being killed by my family.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:52 pm
by Derek T.
Andy/Todd,
I have read comments from Roy saying that he uses crust in cooking. I don't see a problem with it, but I don't think I would spead it on toast :?
What I do have a problem with is using "a cup full of port" in a sauce in circumstances where that same port has thrown the crust. No VP should be subjected to this humiliation unless it has Cruz on the label
Derek
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:32 pm
by Todd Pettinger
No worries Derek, it is just this LBV (unfiltered) that threw some sediment. I likely wouldn't be allowing that same VP into the sauce with the sediment either.
I hear the use of VP in sauce is strictly prohibited unless you are in the Bridgeman family.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:35 pm
by Derek T.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:26 pm
by Todd Pettinger
Is THAT why he hasn't been around this weekend??
Well Andy, Jay, Roy, time to head overseas and pillage the cellar of Mr Bridgeman before Tom wires it up with some sort of "Anti-North-American" booby traps

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:37 pm
by Alan C.
Derek,
Dont lose the support of The VP Cruz Supporters!!!
When I hop about from foot to foot, I look like a Huge Crowd!!!
Alan
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:25 pm
by Todd Pettinger
The last of it...
Posting the entire TN in the TN forum as this one is complete.
+21.5 hours
Just a sip, but enough to determine there has been no change at this point.
+25 hours
A decent pour shows the spirit a tad may be starting to become unhitched from the port. It sits like a bad reminder on the follow through and would result in the loss of at least one point of 100 if were rating this LBV on a 100 pt scale.
+28 hours
A proper glass leaves me with less than 2 oz in the decanter. I see some fine sediment at the bottom of this glass and in the decanter. By this time I have been to the supermarket and purchased my missing unbleached coffee filters, so I do a quick glass-to-glass decant/filter. Alcohol is definitely less integrated at this point, resulting in a tad less satisfaction, but not enough to detract completely.
+30 hours
This bottle is exhausted and I cannot claim that it knocked my socks off as it did the first time. Perhaps this is due to all the LBVs and Rubies I have been trying this month in an attempt to have a variety of 2000 LBVs. I would still say that this was a very solid LBV and was very enjoyable, except for the high expectations that I brought in which ended up not being realized.
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:38 pm
by Andy Velebil
Todd,
You've seemed to have lost your name....did you join that secret government organization with Tom

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:47 pm
by Todd Pettinger
I could tell you, but then I'd have to... oh nevermind!
Yeah, the upgrades to the system that Stewart did must have changed something - it appears that everyone that does not use a full real name does not have their name displayed any more in posts. Nor are ANY names showing up in the "Author" field. Email/post already sent to Stewart!
Todd