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Multi: 1983 Dow's, 1978 Quinta do Noval, 1985 Martinez Vintage Port

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:31 am
by simon Lisle
The dow's I've had a couple of times this year and I think their is more to come from this wine although it is still very pleasent to drink now.The Noval 78 is a lot better than their 75 but still a bit on the weak in body and fruit on it's way out I prefer the Vargellas for this year.The Martinez was lovely drinking I would say at it's peak and what a bargain price on the coat tails of the best 85's.

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:29 am
by Andy Velebil
Simon,
Martinez seems to be that odd duck that ocassionally turns out a good VP.

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:02 am
by Tom Archer
I found Vargellas '78 to be an excellent wine for drinking now - not expensive, and one to look out for.

Tom

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:39 am
by Alan C.
Simon,

Hi. How did you come across the Martinez 85, and how much was it. I'm keen to find a bottle.

Alan

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:02 am
by Tom Archer
Mz 85 appears surprisingly often at auction - and also has a habit of not meeting it's reserve.

When it does sell, the typical sale price is around £130 - £140/dozen.

Tom

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:26 am
by Alan C.
Thanks Tom,

If you hear of any, even a bottle or two, with your more active and knowledgable eye, let me know and I'll chase it up.

I believe Martinez can be very hit and miss, but the 85 Derek,Alex-K and I had recently under the Harvey label was gorgeous, and again theres Simon saying he found it 'lovely'. I just cant seem to stumble across any.

Alan

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:35 pm
by Roy Hersh
Alex,

Which of Martinez's VPs have you enjoyed so far? There US Importer used to be right here so I have a fine grouping of their wines in the past and would like to hear your opinion on this Shippers vintages.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:13 pm
by simon Lisle
Alan I bought mine at auction £170 a case including BP,But I do beleive fine and rare wines are selling some oddments for £24 a bottle.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:15 pm
by Alan C.
Simon,

thanks I'll check it out.

Alan

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:02 pm
by Derek T.
Tom,

Please let us know when this comes up again at auction - I am sure Alan and I would be happy to split a case at £140 if your bidding skills could secure the deal for us - we may even cut you in for a couple of free bottles 8)

Derek

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:27 pm
by Tom Archer
Will do - I might even pay for my bottles :D

The UK trade seems to have virtually no interest in Mz, so it's down to the likes of us to make the running!

Tom

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:41 pm
by Alan C.
Good Men! :thumbsup:

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:33 am
by Todd Pettinger
uncle tom wrote:The UK trade seems to have virtually no interest in Mz, so it's down to the likes of us to make the running!
You can keep a case or two in storage for me... I will pick it up next time I am in the UK and pay a storage premium as well!!! :D

(I think I've mentioned this already in one thread or another, but if it weren't for this forum, I wouldn't even know whether Martinez was a legitimate label or not!!! :))

Todd