Out of curiosity . . .
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:09 am
Having never tried Madeira , I purchased a Leacock's Rainwater and to compare , I also purchased a H&H 15 yr old Verdelho . Would there be a pronounced difference ?
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:42 am
It will be day and night!
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:50 am
Dear Luc,
the Leacock's Rainwater is not bad but compared to the 15 YO H&H Verdelho it will seem watery indeed. Even though the two wines should have about the same level of sweetness, the Rainwater is rather light and without any depth, hence the name...
I remember the 15 YO Verdelho from H&H as being a very good one, multilayered, could beat some modern vintage Madeiras in depth and complexity.
But I think your approach to Madeira wine makes a lot of sense, starting with something ordinary and then working your way up. The next logical step would be a Verdelho vintage Madeira from the 20th century, Barbeitos maybe, or also H&H. You should take a look at Roy's TN's to find out what sounds best for you.
Enjoy!
Peter
the Leacock's Rainwater is not bad but compared to the 15 YO H&H Verdelho it will seem watery indeed. Even though the two wines should have about the same level of sweetness, the Rainwater is rather light and without any depth, hence the name...
I remember the 15 YO Verdelho from H&H as being a very good one, multilayered, could beat some modern vintage Madeiras in depth and complexity.
But I think your approach to Madeira wine makes a lot of sense, starting with something ordinary and then working your way up. The next logical step would be a Verdelho vintage Madeira from the 20th century, Barbeitos maybe, or also H&H. You should take a look at Roy's TN's to find out what sounds best for you.
Enjoy!
Peter
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:58 am
Txs for the advice Peter , and your comment Fred . . .
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:39 am
[quote]Having never tried Madeira , I purchased a Leacock's Rainwater and to compare , I also purchased a H&H 15 yr old Verdelho . Would there be a pronounced difference ?[/quote]
No more so than say a 2006 Cru Beaujolais and a 1989 Haut Brion.
No more so than say a 2006 Cru Beaujolais and a 1989 Haut Brion.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:05 am
Roy ,I get the message . . .
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:53 am
Indeed, the 15 year is good one...Frederick Blais wrote:It will be day and night!
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:52 pm
I actually had to look these two up...Roy Hersh wrote:No more so than say a 2006 Cru Beaujolais and a 1989 Haut Brion.
How embarrasing!It sounds like the H&H 15 Year would be a good one for me to try as well then for a good Madeira experience!
Todd
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:16 am
In a word, YES.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:51 am
Todd , great minds think alike . . .Todd Pettinger wrote:I actually had to look these two up...Roy Hersh wrote:No more so than say a 2006 Cru Beaujolais and a 1989 Haut Brion.
It sounds like the H&H 15 Year would be a good one for me to try as well then for a good Madeira experience!
Todd
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:14 am
And to think that Todd does not even enjoy peanut butter with his Madeira! 
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:37 am
Good one , Roy .
Hate to dissapoint , but Madeira and peanut butter just don't mix . . .
Hate to dissapoint , but Madeira and peanut butter just don't mix . . .
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:54 am
I laughed out loud when I read this one because I really have to be in the mood to enjoy peanut butter, never mind with Port or Madeira.Roy Hersh wrote:And to think that Todd does not even enjoy peanut butter with his Madeira!
Actuallym the local selection of Madeira sucks just enough that PB with ANY of them would be a travesty! (and likely a waste of good Madeira!)
Todd
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:51 am
Todd , in La Belle Province you can get H & H 5 yr for $ 15.00 and work your way to Pereira d'Oliveira demi-sec Verdelho 1850 for $ 1,195 .00 !!!
Can you spare a dime .
Can you spare a dime .