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Army and Navy botting--1963 Taylor?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:59 pm
by John Trombley
I've seen an offer of this bottle, at about mid-neck, and with apparently good color, for $200. Any experience with the A and N bottlings of this usually great port? I notice that third-party bottlings of this wine have a tendency to be rated a few points lower than the Portugal bottlings. Thoughts?

Re: Army and Navy botting--1963 Taylor?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:34 pm
by Bradley Bogdan
I'm sure others here will chime in, but my general impression of all the notes shared here and on the other port forum is that Army and Navy is one of the more trusted bottlers to buy. You're right that some bottlers have much better reputations than others. $200 for that port in that condition sounds like an excellent deal to me, especially if you know it's been treated well.


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Re: Army and Navy botting--1963 Taylor?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:53 pm
by John Trombley
Thanks, Bradley. The only English bottler that I've had any experience with is the '70 Graham's, Whitwam's, and that was superb. I don't know much about the provenance of this bottle, but perhaps I can find out from the one who's offering it. It looks pretty good, but of course that is as may be.

Re: Army and Navy botting--1963 Taylor?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:26 pm
by Andy Velebil
Bradley Bogdan wrote:I'm sure others here will chime in, but my general impression of all the notes shared here and on the other port forum is that Army and Navy is one of the more trusted bottlers to buy. You're right that some bottlers have much better reputations than others. $200 for that port in that condition sounds like an excellent deal to me, especially if you know it's been treated well.
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Re: Army and Navy botting--1963 Taylor?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:04 pm
by Bradley Bogdan
John Trombley wrote:Thanks, Bradley. The only English bottler that I've had any experience with is the '70 Graham's, Whitwam's, and that was superb. I don't know much about the provenance of this bottle, but perhaps I can find out from the one who's offering it. It looks pretty good, but of course that is as may be.
It's tough for a bottle to make it 50+ years with a fill into the neck if it's been treated poorly, but obviously if you're going to spend significant cash on a bottle, always do your homework :-).


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Re: Army and Navy botting--1963 Taylor?

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:36 pm
by Glenn E.
Andy Velebil wrote:
Bradley Bogdan wrote:I'm sure others here will chime in, but my general impression of all the notes shared here and on the other port forum is that Army and Navy is one of the more trusted bottlers to buy. You're right that some bottlers have much better reputations than others. $200 for that port in that condition sounds like an excellent deal to me, especially if you know it's been treated well.
Basically +1
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Re: Army and Navy botting--1963 Taylor?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:32 am
by Al B.
Army & Navy were competent and capable bottlers who had a reputation in the UK for offering reliable and quality wines.

Time will have had its effect on the bottle so the quality of the bottler can't always be relied on, but it's a good start. I have had some excellent A&N bottles of port...and some disappointing ones.