Event: FTLOP - London offline - 6th Nov. 2005
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:43 pm
Well, I'm drinking port again, surprise, surprise (this time a Warres '94 LBV - a little firecracker given enough air), but having added some TN's to the bottom of the thread last week, which has died a death, I wonder if this post under a specific title might prompt some more TN's from the same event!?? Would be nice to know what other people thought of what was a pretty major port event in the UK: the first 'official' Roy Hersh For the Love of Port London offline!
Anyway, most know all the details, but some notes follow, and I hope they don't turn out to be the only ones?
Lindens’ Blind wine. A light ruby – couldn’t see if there was any browning at the rim. Light, spicy fruit on the nose and simple red/cherry fruits and warmth from the alcohol. Seemed like a ripe vintage, possibly losing fruit. Linden mentions ripe vintage is on track – but I not quite getting where he was coming from, go along with a less known house from ’77. Instead, a Dow’s LBV ’61! Quite a novelty - thanks Linden!
As for points, well they are personal. I have more consideration for what the wine tastes like on the day, and after around 15-20 mins air. It’s the only way I know to provide a level playing field for wines served together - as well as avoid the impression I actually know what the wine might peak at! Instead, a + for those that seem to have upside.
Flight 1 1963
Colours quite similar – but Fonseca deepest, Graham’s lightest with some bricking.
Sandeman
Slightly dry/dusty cherry fruit; some date like development. Palate entry also a little dusty with lightish red fruits. Not deep, but good balance with integrated alcohol providing a comfortable warmth. No long on fruit, but a hint of currant/smoke draws out the finish. Nose seems to get progressively more dusty towards cardboardy, and TCA seems probable to me. However, another 30 minutes or so after, no sign of it so not TCA. An odd taint, but clears with air and an additional tea like character emerges. Might just be signs of the wine breaking down, but not easy to be sure either way. Overall this lighter style wine provides interest and enjoyable balance – especially once the dusty edge disappears. 88-/100
Grahams
High toned – touch of nail varnish and sweet red fruit on the nose. Not complex with pinched fruit and a hint of tea. Lovely entry though, rich, sweet glycerol – less problem with the VA on the palate. Lovely balance overall and a clean finish. Some lingering fruit. Gets progressively better with air as the VA diminishes, but again a fully mature wine it seems which could be sliding. 91- (would be higher if not for the VA)
Taylor
Datey/figgy nose – also a touch high toned but more subtle with an almost minty edge; slightly firm entry with bright acids and powerful, somewhat hot spirity fruit – firm but still seemingly mature - overall an attractive, if somewhat singular style. 92
Fonseca
Somewhat closed nose; dates, curranty, concentrated red fruits. Firm palate; richer fruit than the above ports with good extract – but still not supple and open enough for readiness for drinking. Some tannic astringency still – quite long. Opens a touch with air to show dense, slightly smokey/burnt fruit. Still unwinding but certainly classic. 94+ today, should improve significantly if it opens out as hoped.
Flight 2 1966
More variation in colour here, with the Sandeman relatively light and the Fonseca darkest by far.
Sandeman
Light spicy/cherry nose. Much more fruit and sweetness than the ’63 - better balanced. A sweeter, more fruity nose with air. Quite powerful warming fruit – not quite the sweetness of a typical Grahams but without VA and a very pleasurable showing in a lighter style. 91
Taylors
Not quite bright, colour/weight similar to the Grahams. Figgy/datey nose – some demarrara sugar – nicely open and mature. Lovely raison/dried but sweet fruit on the palate – good structure too with just a touch of astringency – quite powerful in a typical Taylor style, and probably the best example of this one for me – certainly at peak. 93.
Grahams
More volatility here in the ’66 than I like – as with the ’63 – but some tea/spicy/smokey notes for complexity though. Again palate entry is lovely – with slightly sweet mature fruit with rounded mouthfeel and agreeable ‘lick your lips’ sweetness on finish. 92. Would be higher but for the VA.
Fonseca
Nose of slightly vegetal/leafy/licorice/cedary red fruits – complex but the vegetal element is a touch distracting. (This was perplexing as I’d not come across it before in the ’66, but I have found it in Fonseca, for example ’83 and ’97). Similar flavours on the palate with more coffee/cedary concentrated fruit – somewhat plumy still – long with still some tannins to soften further – with a hint of smoke on the finish. Quite youthful really, but very drinkable. The small dregs left the next day (no sediment in them) bizzarely showed no green notes at all. I’ve no explanation for what it was then, as underripe fruit is underripe fruit and I’m working on the assumption it ain’t going to disappear with aeration! 95+?
Flight 3 1970 – blind.
A: Darkest colour – leaning towards the Fonseca already. Datey, figgy, spicy Christmas cake (note after the event – jeezz, if that wasn’t a pointer that it could be the Grahams – what was I needing!); good rich and structured fruit – youthful – excellent. One if not the best of the ports showing ports of the day for me, and I guess Fonseca. 96+. Revealed as the Grahams.
B:Lightest colour – leaning towards the Sandeman. Somewhat light, spicy/tea and simple cherry fruit nose. Tea, currant and simple light fruit on the palate but nicely balanced. A nice style and guess correctly as the Sandeman. 85
C: Mid colour. Sweet cherry/cranberry nose – no VA to help me spot it as Grahams but I’m erring towards it on colour. Quite a strong element of minerality running through the palate – quite firm and powerful but with good ripe fruit and sweetness to balanced. Some heat on finish is a touch distracting though. Youthful, powerful and yet I guess Grahams. 94+ Revealed as the Fonseca.
D: Slightly dusty, curranty fruit and then quite a drying disjointed finish. Initially thought it might need some air (a la the miscall on the Sandeman ’63). But showed quite quickly to be real not imagined TCA at work. The Taylors.
Well, I’ve mentioned about the impressive Portal wines, but in summary the 2003 Portal+ was silky, forward, lovely balanced and practically gluggable. I loved it, and showed a balance and elegance I associate with young Fonseca – but the structure and power comes in the Portal 2003. More Taylor like with its quite prominent alcohol and astringency from the structure. The most VP like of the 3, has to be said! The Sandeman 2003 struck me more like a just release Unfiltered LBV. Lovely balance, less obvious fruit than the Portal +, but supple and early drinking. Lovely young port at that.
Anyway, most know all the details, but some notes follow, and I hope they don't turn out to be the only ones?
Lindens’ Blind wine. A light ruby – couldn’t see if there was any browning at the rim. Light, spicy fruit on the nose and simple red/cherry fruits and warmth from the alcohol. Seemed like a ripe vintage, possibly losing fruit. Linden mentions ripe vintage is on track – but I not quite getting where he was coming from, go along with a less known house from ’77. Instead, a Dow’s LBV ’61! Quite a novelty - thanks Linden!
As for points, well they are personal. I have more consideration for what the wine tastes like on the day, and after around 15-20 mins air. It’s the only way I know to provide a level playing field for wines served together - as well as avoid the impression I actually know what the wine might peak at! Instead, a + for those that seem to have upside.
Flight 1 1963
Colours quite similar – but Fonseca deepest, Graham’s lightest with some bricking.
Sandeman
Slightly dry/dusty cherry fruit; some date like development. Palate entry also a little dusty with lightish red fruits. Not deep, but good balance with integrated alcohol providing a comfortable warmth. No long on fruit, but a hint of currant/smoke draws out the finish. Nose seems to get progressively more dusty towards cardboardy, and TCA seems probable to me. However, another 30 minutes or so after, no sign of it so not TCA. An odd taint, but clears with air and an additional tea like character emerges. Might just be signs of the wine breaking down, but not easy to be sure either way. Overall this lighter style wine provides interest and enjoyable balance – especially once the dusty edge disappears. 88-/100
Grahams
High toned – touch of nail varnish and sweet red fruit on the nose. Not complex with pinched fruit and a hint of tea. Lovely entry though, rich, sweet glycerol – less problem with the VA on the palate. Lovely balance overall and a clean finish. Some lingering fruit. Gets progressively better with air as the VA diminishes, but again a fully mature wine it seems which could be sliding. 91- (would be higher if not for the VA)
Taylor
Datey/figgy nose – also a touch high toned but more subtle with an almost minty edge; slightly firm entry with bright acids and powerful, somewhat hot spirity fruit – firm but still seemingly mature - overall an attractive, if somewhat singular style. 92
Fonseca
Somewhat closed nose; dates, curranty, concentrated red fruits. Firm palate; richer fruit than the above ports with good extract – but still not supple and open enough for readiness for drinking. Some tannic astringency still – quite long. Opens a touch with air to show dense, slightly smokey/burnt fruit. Still unwinding but certainly classic. 94+ today, should improve significantly if it opens out as hoped.
Flight 2 1966
More variation in colour here, with the Sandeman relatively light and the Fonseca darkest by far.
Sandeman
Light spicy/cherry nose. Much more fruit and sweetness than the ’63 - better balanced. A sweeter, more fruity nose with air. Quite powerful warming fruit – not quite the sweetness of a typical Grahams but without VA and a very pleasurable showing in a lighter style. 91
Taylors
Not quite bright, colour/weight similar to the Grahams. Figgy/datey nose – some demarrara sugar – nicely open and mature. Lovely raison/dried but sweet fruit on the palate – good structure too with just a touch of astringency – quite powerful in a typical Taylor style, and probably the best example of this one for me – certainly at peak. 93.
Grahams
More volatility here in the ’66 than I like – as with the ’63 – but some tea/spicy/smokey notes for complexity though. Again palate entry is lovely – with slightly sweet mature fruit with rounded mouthfeel and agreeable ‘lick your lips’ sweetness on finish. 92. Would be higher but for the VA.
Fonseca
Nose of slightly vegetal/leafy/licorice/cedary red fruits – complex but the vegetal element is a touch distracting. (This was perplexing as I’d not come across it before in the ’66, but I have found it in Fonseca, for example ’83 and ’97). Similar flavours on the palate with more coffee/cedary concentrated fruit – somewhat plumy still – long with still some tannins to soften further – with a hint of smoke on the finish. Quite youthful really, but very drinkable. The small dregs left the next day (no sediment in them) bizzarely showed no green notes at all. I’ve no explanation for what it was then, as underripe fruit is underripe fruit and I’m working on the assumption it ain’t going to disappear with aeration! 95+?
Flight 3 1970 – blind.
A: Darkest colour – leaning towards the Fonseca already. Datey, figgy, spicy Christmas cake (note after the event – jeezz, if that wasn’t a pointer that it could be the Grahams – what was I needing!); good rich and structured fruit – youthful – excellent. One if not the best of the ports showing ports of the day for me, and I guess Fonseca. 96+. Revealed as the Grahams.
B:Lightest colour – leaning towards the Sandeman. Somewhat light, spicy/tea and simple cherry fruit nose. Tea, currant and simple light fruit on the palate but nicely balanced. A nice style and guess correctly as the Sandeman. 85
C: Mid colour. Sweet cherry/cranberry nose – no VA to help me spot it as Grahams but I’m erring towards it on colour. Quite a strong element of minerality running through the palate – quite firm and powerful but with good ripe fruit and sweetness to balanced. Some heat on finish is a touch distracting though. Youthful, powerful and yet I guess Grahams. 94+ Revealed as the Fonseca.
D: Slightly dusty, curranty fruit and then quite a drying disjointed finish. Initially thought it might need some air (a la the miscall on the Sandeman ’63). But showed quite quickly to be real not imagined TCA at work. The Taylors.
Well, I’ve mentioned about the impressive Portal wines, but in summary the 2003 Portal+ was silky, forward, lovely balanced and practically gluggable. I loved it, and showed a balance and elegance I associate with young Fonseca – but the structure and power comes in the Portal 2003. More Taylor like with its quite prominent alcohol and astringency from the structure. The most VP like of the 3, has to be said! The Sandeman 2003 struck me more like a just release Unfiltered LBV. Lovely balance, less obvious fruit than the Portal +, but supple and early drinking. Lovely young port at that.