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Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:56 am
by Albert Bouffard
Wondering if anyone can help sort this out - I'm trying to identify a bottle of Quinta do Noval; not sure if this is a VP, LBV, or Colheita.

The glass on the front is embossed, reading
Noval
AJS
Port

The silver metal capsule reads:
"Quinta do Noval Vila Nova De Gaia"

The stenciled label, which is mostly worn off (including the vintage, unfortunately), likely reads
"Quinta do Noval" based on the letters remaining though there are no real clues to the designation or vintage

Photos are via this link:
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auct ... 7a00d6c5b4

Many thanks if anyone can help me sort this out!

Re: Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 4:00 am
by Maurice Fitzhugh
I think it is antonio jose da silva. I could not see the posted picture


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Re: Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 5:35 am
by Albert Bouffard
Yes I suspect so -- but it isn't clear to me as to whether that signifies whether this is a VP vs LBV or a particular age.

Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:54 am
by Andy Velebil
Using my phone so bear with me. it could be anything from a cheap Ruby to an older tawny as they used that bottle for a number of their ports but it would not be a vintage port as they didn't use that bottle for VP, at least that I've ever seen. Bottle shape like that was used somewhere around the late 50's to early 60's where they then added the flat spot on the top of the bottle (looks like a flat broken edge under the capsule). Total gamble as to what it is without the lettering on the bottle.


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Re: Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 10:35 am
by Glenn E.
Albert, your link somehow got clipped so it's not working. Could you edit your post a re-include the link?

Re: Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 6:28 pm
by Albert Bouffard
Glenn E. wrote:Albert, your link somehow got clipped so it's not working. Could you edit your post a re-include the link?
Thanks for the heads-up, Glenn. I think this should work:

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auct ... 7a00d6c5b4

Re: Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 6:30 pm
by Albert Bouffard
Andy Velebil wrote:Using my phone so bear with me. it could be anything from a cheap Ruby to an older tawny as they used that bottle for a number of their ports but it would not be a vintage port as they didn't use that bottle for VP, at least that I've ever seen. Bottle shape like that was used somewhere around the late 50's to early 60's where they then added the flat spot on the top of the bottle (looks like a flat broken edge under the capsule). Total gamble as to what it is without the lettering on the bottle.


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Andy, thank you again - I saw your reply on Wine Berserkers. Much appreciated!

Re: Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:31 pm
by Glenn E.
Albert Bouffard wrote:
Glenn E. wrote:Albert, your link somehow got clipped so it's not working. Could you edit your post a re-include the link?
Thanks for the heads-up, Glenn. I think this should work:

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auct ... 7a00d6c5b4
Yep! That one works.

Sadly I don't really have much of anything to add other than what's already been said. If I squint really hard I think it looks more like a tawny than a ruby (especially in the neck), but that still leaves a really wide range of possibilities.

Re: Mystery Quinta do Noval

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 3:09 am
by Tom Archer
I'm pretty certain from the remains of the stencilling that you're looking at a Noval LB

Compare with the picture here:

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... f7017b3622

I've drunk old bottles of this a couple of times - I wouldn't go paying big money for it. The bottles have an intentionally 'distressed' look - I very much doubt the bottle is as old as the auctioneer suggests.