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1941 Garrafeira Velha
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:06 pm
by Shawn Denkler

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In the 1980s I bought a bottle of Quinta do Noval Garrafeira Velha at auction. It is still in good condition after all these years. I have wanted to drink it with knowledgeable port people. I've just never been to a tasting of older colheitas & garrafeiras to include it in.
It was bottled in 1941. How old do people think it might have been when bottled?
It has a leather disk from Noval around the neck, I've never seen anything like it.
Re: 1941 Garrafeira Velha
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:52 pm
by Moses Botbol
Is that a Garrafeira in the way Niepoort does or just a Colheita?
Re: 1941 Garrafeira Velha
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:09 pm
by Glenn E.
Moses Botbol wrote:Is that a Garrafeira in the way Niepoort does or just a Colheita?
Pretty sure that in this case we're talking about an "old bottling" rather than a style of Port. I've had many "Garrafeira Particular" from other producers that have nothing to do with the Garrafeira style of Port.
I really have no idea on age prior to bottling. As I recall the original Niepoort VV was around 50-80 years old on average when bottled, but those V's (for vinha velha) may not have anything in common with this one.
Re: 1941 Garrafeira Velha
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:14 pm
by Roy Hersh
This is a different label, but it is clearly what we think of as Colheita. As I brought from home a 1941 Noval Colheita, to open for Noval's winemaker, Antonio Agrellos, (he loved it!); same juice, different label and possibly a different release date. Garrafeira translated directly to "cellar" in English. MANY old bottles had that on Port and even table wine labels back in the day.
Re: 1941 Garrafeira Velha
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:31 pm
by Andy Velebil
The fact that the label says "Bottled in 1941" and no mention of a vintage, I'd guess this is some kind of blend of tawny's. Given the year it was bottled and world events transpiring at that time, I'd guess this was probably meant for a specific customer (importer) at their request. Not a lot of non-essential things were being imported to many countries in 1941.