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News Flash: SFE
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 3:26 pm
by Roy Hersh
In today's newspaper in PT, there was an article about the Symingtons, mostly mentioning the family, but from Paul's perspective and focused on their tourism efforts. They will be creating two new restaurants, early next year. One will be at the recently remodeled Cockburn's Lodge and the other will be at Quinta do Bomfim on the outskirts of Pinhao.
One can never have too many restaurants in Porto or the Douro!
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:48 pm
by Andy Velebil
Other than Quinta do Tedo's Bistro, one of my favorite tourist lunch's was at Echo House at Quinta do Bomfim. Picnic lunch, wine and we bought an old Tawny as well to add to it. They drive you up to the house and you're on your own. Just a fantastic relaxing lunch over looking the Douro and vineyards. I highly recommend it.
That said, look forward to trying this out when it opens.
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Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 5:40 am
by Tom Archer
One can never have too many restaurants in Porto or the Douro!
There's quite a lot of scope for improvements on that front. Not every tourist thrives on a diet of fish and sea food and there are too many overly modern, pretentious restaurants where one typically gets underfed and overcharged..
I think a no-nonsense steak house on the Porto riverfront that served well sized quality steaks (not tough ranched Brazilian cattle..) with bread, chips and either draught Super Bock or wine by the carafe, would enjoy a lot of footfall..
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 2:30 pm
by Eric Menchen
Tom Archer wrote:
There's quite a lot of scope for improvements on that front. Not every tourist thrives on a diet of fish and sea food and there are too many overly modern, pretentious restaurants where one typically gets underfed and overcharged..
I think a no-nonsense steak house on the Porto riverfront that served well sized quality steaks (not tough ranched Brazilian cattle..) with bread, chips and either draught Super Bock or wine by the carafe, would enjoy a lot of footfall..
Have you tried Muu? I haven't been there, but was thinking of trying it out this year. It might fall under the pretentious label, but I don't think underfed. Not much information, but here's the website:
http://www.muusteakhouse.com/
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:54 am
by Moses Botbol
Tom Archer wrote:One can never have too many restaurants in Porto or the Douro!
There's quite a lot of scope for improvements on that front. Not every tourist thrives on a diet of fish and sea food and there are too many overly modern, pretentious restaurants where one typically gets underfed and overcharged..
I think a no-nonsense steak house on the Porto riverfront that served well sized quality steaks (not tough ranched Brazilian cattle..) with bread, chips and either draught Super Bock or wine by the carafe, would enjoy a lot of footfall..
That formula is valued just about anywhere in the world.
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 8:36 pm
by Andy Velebil
Tom Archer wrote:One can never have too many restaurants in Porto or the Douro!
There's quite a lot of scope for improvements on that front. Not every tourist thrives on a diet of fish and sea food and there are too many overly modern, pretentious restaurants where one typically gets underfed and overcharged..
I think a no-nonsense steak house on the Porto riverfront that served well sized quality steaks (not tough ranched Brazilian cattle..) with bread, chips and either draught Super Bock or wine by the carafe, would enjoy a lot of footfall..
A big part of the issue was aged meat was illegal in Portugal. Not the case anymore, as of last year iirc. So I was told. That's why it was always just OK and never great IMO. However I had a wonderful steak at Vinum last year. I'm sure it may take a little bit for some places, but you should be finding much better steaks now days at the upper end restaurants.
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Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 8:56 pm
by Frederick Blais
It was not illegal, but the law is very strict about how the meat has to age. It is still, but now people are being equiped properly as the demand is there.
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:21 pm
by Andy Velebil
Frederick Blais wrote:It was not illegal, but the law is very strict about how the meat has to age. It is still, but now people are being equiped properly as the demand is there.
Good to know. I had been told it was illegal but I'd assume there was a "lost in translation" moment. Hah!
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Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 9:37 pm
by Frederick Blais
Andy Velebil wrote:Frederick Blais wrote:It was not illegal, but the law is very strict about how the meat has to age. It is still, but now people are being equiped properly as the demand is there.
Good to know. I had been told it was illegal but I'd assume there was a "lost in translation" moment. Hah!
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I've also had many illegally aged meat in Portugal, some are doing it without proper conditions according to the law.
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:29 am
by Tom Archer
I'm not sure if aging is the issue. My past experience of steak in Portugal is that it's invariably tough. A butcher friend tells me that that is probably the result of open ranched cattle getting too much exercise on poor quality pasture.
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:22 am
by Eric Menchen
Tom Archer wrote:I'm not sure if aging is the issue. My past experience of steak in Portugal is that it's invariably tough. A butcher friend tells me that that is probably the result of open ranched cattle getting too much exercise on poor quality pasture.
I love Argentine beef, which is pretty much all open range grass fed, which leads me to think the pasture quality may be more of the issue.
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 11:30 am
by Eric Ifune
The Chalet restaurant in Funchal has long had a glass locker in full view where they dry aged beef.
Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:16 pm
by Roy Hersh
Next week I'll be dining there again.
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Re: News Flash: SFE
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:35 pm
by Eric Ifune
Beef or Scabbard Fish?
