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Port with no Selo

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:48 am
by Andy Velebil
Here’s a First I’ve not seen before. The Selo on the back label.

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Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:36 pm
by John M.
Noooooo.

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:08 am
by Moses Botbol
Interesting, a first time for me seeing that as well. Would preserve the serial number much better than on the neck.

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:01 pm
by Roy Hersh
I will try to find out what precipitated this change by the IVDP. As soon as I hear back, I will include the info here.

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:46 am
by Phil W
Roy Hersh wrote:I will try to find out what precipitated this change by the IVDP. As soon as I hear back, I will include the info here.
I think the option for the selo to appear elsewhere like this has been in the rules as an option for a while? Am fairly sure I saw examples of this when I was looking up about the "selo-cap" as used on some in-flight port miniatures.

As to why Taylor have decided to go this route now instead of the "over-the-top" style selos, I would guess it's a cost vs application process issue, though would be interesting to hear from TFP on whether this is anticipated to be the strategy for all formats and styles in future.

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:38 am
by Glenn E.
The over-the-top Selo is what makes Port stand out on the shelf for me. Without it, Port is just another wine like all the rest.

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:46 am
by Roy Hersh
I think the option for the selo to appear elsewhere like this has been in the rules as an option for a while? Am fairly sure I saw examples of this when I was looking up about the "selo-cap" as used on some in-flight port miniatures.
Yep, IF you count 8 months ... a while. IVDP wrote me back quickly.

Nice hearing from you.
There is a change in the law now, and you can use the seal as you have seen. This was a decision of the Inter-professional Council.
Please find attached the laws (in Portuguese) regarding this subject. The decree 6/2018 says that “Selo Cavaleiro” it’s not mandatory. The “despacho” mentions what are the approved models of selo.
I hope this helps.


Roy adds:
(Despacho = office).
If you'd like me to translate the rest of the regulation to the best I can, if people are further interested. I am happy to do so.

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:41 pm
by Zak Romaszko
It seems to have even made its way to the full vintage selection. What has come of this world?
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Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:27 pm
by Phil W
Roy Hersh wrote:
I think the option for the selo to appear elsewhere like this has been in the rules as an option for a while? Am fairly sure I saw examples of this when I was looking up about the "selo-cap" as used on some in-flight port miniatures.
Yep, IF you count 8 months ... a while. IVDP wrote me back quickly.

Nice hearing from you.
There is a change in the law now, and you can use the seal as you have seen. This was a decision of the Inter-professional Council.
Please find attached the laws (in Portuguese) regarding this subject. The decree 6/2018 says that “Selo Cavaleiro” it’s not mandatory. The “despacho” mentions what are the approved models of selo.
I hope this helps.


Roy adds:
(Despacho = office).
If you'd like me to translate the rest of the regulation to the best I can, if people are further interested. I am happy to do so.
A little bit longer ago, though not much; February last year (document here: https://www.ivdp.pt/pt/docs/legislacao/418.pdf), though I did think I was remembering from before that, so perhaps it might have been a draft/discussion document rather than the published regulation. Or I'm just confusing it with looking at the bottle-top selo specification a few years before that...

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:05 pm
by Mike J. W.
Boo hiss!

Re: Port with no Selo

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:51 am
by Moses Botbol
Glenn E. wrote:The over-the-top Selo is what makes Port stand out on the shelf for me. Without it, Port is just another wine like all the rest.
Tradition for tradition's sake can be a good thing.