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Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:20 am
by Yev Nyden
I found two different bottling of 1977 Fonseca's VP and I wondered if there was any difference in them besides the labeling.
#1 with a selo under the foil, label saying "Fonseca's Finest 1977 Vintage Port", and with an importer label for "The Stacole Co.":
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Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:21 am
by Yev Nyden
#2 with a selo over the foil, no 'Finest' in the name, and no importer label. Haven't tried #2 yet, but #1 was excellent.
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Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:15 am
by Andy Velebil
The one with the Selo over the top of the capsule is a late release from the around the mid. 1990’s and imported to the USA by their importer here Kobrand
I can’t see the front of the Selo on the other but suspect it’s an original release (or close to it) based on the label.
Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:36 pm
by LOUISSS J
Andy Velebil wrote: ↑Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:15 am
The one with the Selo over the top of the capsule is a late release from the around the mid. 1990’s and imported to the USA by their importer here Kobrand
I can’t see the front of the Selo on the other but suspect it’s an original release (or close to it) based on the label.
How do you know that?
Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:12 pm
by Yev Nyden
I will share the full selo once I get home, but I wonder how it is possible to have a later release of a VP. Was it bottled (in 1979) and was stored w/o labels? And label were added later when the port was sold to Kobrand?
Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:19 pm
by Andy Velebil
Yev Nyden wrote:I will share the full selo once I get home, but I wonder how it is possible to have a later release of a VP. Was it bottled (in 1979) and was stored w/o labels? And label were added later when the port was sold to Kobrand?
While becoming less today, in years past producers made a lot of VP. They would do an initial release then at various times, years later, would do subsequent “ex-cellars” releases. Bottles that were not initially released are stored in the producers cellar in Gaia without labels. Hence, when they get released later, there’s a new Selo and a new label that is applied.
Kobrand is just their importer/distributor in the USA and by law that must be on the label.
Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:47 pm
by Yev Nyden
That makes sense. Thank you, Andy!
Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:25 pm
by Yev Nyden

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Re: Two bottlings of 1977 Fonseca's VP
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:38 pm
by Andy Velebil
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