#6: What is your favorite vintage of Dow's VP?

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:12 am

Having enjoyed a few verticals of Dow over the years, (most recently in Nov. 2006) I may know this producer more thoroughly than any of the other five we've visited so far; but only from 1945 on. I have had older ones too, but for me the sweet spot has been from 1963 (pre-Symington era, which began with the purchase in 1970) through the 2003.

As this is a very visible and venerable Port Shipper, which is found in most markets, I believe this thread will be popular for days to come. Please do share your ultimate favorite vintage of Dow.

Cheers!

SEAN C. · Post by **SEAN C.** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:21 am

I like the 1970 Dow the best from what I can remember but I ned to revisit a bottle! My second choice would be the 1980.. I know I've had 1983's, '77's and '85's that were good as well. I'm not a fan of the 1963 at all and I've had it several times.
Maybe I'll drink some Dow this weekend!

Moses Botbol · Post by **Moses Botbol** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:03 am

SEAN C. wrote:I like the 1970 Dow the best from what I can remember but I ned to revisit a bottle! My second choice would be the 1980.. I know I've had 1983's, '77's and '85's that were good as well. I'm not a fan of the 1963 at all and I've had it several times.
Maybe I'll drink some Dow this weekend!

'63 is not that good a vintage for Dow at all. I too, am a fan of 77, which most will vote as one of the best. Sean's picked all winners, but I can't decide which one I thought is best. Perhaps 70 again? Maybe 77... That a tough one.

Post by **Andy Velebil** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:44 am

I would go with 1970

Rich Greenberg · Post by **Rich Greenberg** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:22 am

Having only had one, I realize that I don't have the proper base for a true statistical analysis......

Guess that makes my favorite the 1991! :)

Note to self, explore some more vintages of Dow.

Rich

Alan Gardner · Post by **Alan Gardner** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:43 am

I have two answers - for different reasons.
I actually find Dow the most consistent of all the houses. Even in off-years, the style is consistent. So my 'first' vote goes to the 1975 where Dow made the best port of all the houses - even though that vintage should probably not have ben declared.
In no other year did Dow produce the finest port of the vintage, but of all my tastings I recall 1955 as being my favourite.

Paul Eddy · Post by **Paul Eddy** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:02 pm

Thank you Roy, my favourite producer and I have had many VP's and SQVP's. For me, a lover of older port ,it has to be either the 1960 or the 1970.
I had several bottles of the 60 which wowed me but I reckon I have to plump for the 1970. Just delicious, with a little way to go(IMHO) but already showing great complexity and nuances.

Paul.

David Spriggs · Post by **David Spriggs** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:44 pm

The 1994 is the best for me. Huge fruit and equal to Graham's that year. Only Vesuvio from the Symington's outshines the 1994 Dow's. Here are my notes from teh 1994 Symington's shoot out tasting:

1994 Dow's - Very vinous nose. Dark black fruit nose. Even darker than Graham's. Huge fruit entry. Awesome grip. Really supurb! Long, long finish. Essence of black fruit. Great grip and acid. 97 points.

1977 is runner up... but the tannins are still quite rustic and may never melt away. Still, it's a top 1977 VP.
-Dave-

Frederick Blais · Post by **Frederick Blais** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:08 pm

I've tasted probably all declaration from 77 to 2003 and definitively the 77 is well above. 2000 is the one looking to be as equal, but I never liked Dow's when it is young.

Scott Anaya · Post by **Scott Anaya** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:50 pm

I have not yet had a '70 Dow, but I will seek one out now that i have read your shoutouts on that one.

I would have to go with the '77. I have introduced many a folks to VP with this one. Goes especially well with a cheese course I have found.

Alex R · Post by **Alex R** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:14 pm

1966 for me

Al B. · Post by **Al B.** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:51 am

I've tried a fair few Dow vintages, having had the chance to sip from all the vintages from 1963 onwards with the exception of 1975.

It seems that I will go against the flow here - my stand-out is very clearly the 1963, supplied from the Symington cellars and drunk with about 2½ hours of decanter time. It was superb.

After the '63, Dow's vintages are consistently good in my notes but without ever achieving the stellar heights reached by Fonseca or Taylor or Nacional.

Alex

Moses Botbol · Post by **Moses Botbol** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:01 am

Al B. wrote:I've tried a fair few Dow vintages...

It seems that I will go against the flow here - my stand-out is very clearly the 1963, supplied from the Symington cellars and drunk with about 2½ hours of decanter time. It was superb.

Interesting... I have the Dow 63 a few times and have always been disappointed; just an unexciting port. Our TN's were posted here a couple of months ago.

Ronald Wortel · Post by **Ronald Wortel** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:12 am

I have a hard time choosing between 1970, 1977 and 1980, but will go for the '80 because it's such a standout for the vintage, as an (relatively) undiscovered gem still very much affordable and a textbook example of the Dow style.

Post by **Roy Hersh** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:41 am

I really have enjoyed the 1963 Dow on all occasions but one, which was a huge disappointment because it was in the crosshairs of a '63 horizontal and lots of focus on all the bottles. Otherwise, a simply beautiful Dow today!

However, looking at the body of work, if I had to pick just one Dow as my all time favorite, in terms of its impact on me, it would definitely have to be the 1994. Now some may joke it is because I spent a few days time at Bomfim in 1994, but that has nothing to do with it actually. That only influenced my buying habits.

But for sheer depth of pleasure, the 1994 is nearing perfection for a Port of its age. The harmonious balance in that VP is even better than the Vesuvio which I rate higher. That does not mean I like the Dow more, just find the synch of fruit, acidity and tannins to be better today (and from the first time I had it). I do prefer the Vesuvio '94 overall, but that is an aside.

So David S., it looks like I agree with you ... on this one.

Jay Powers · Post by **Jay Powers** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:31 pm

I too like the 94 very much and have a case aging in the cellar, but for me my favorite would be the 1966. I have had the 1970 numerous times now, including directly from the producers celler in magnum, and always found it to have a bit too much heat.

Jay

David Spriggs · Post by **David Spriggs** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:17 pm

I actually rate the 1994 Dow's one point higher than the Vesuvio... but both are spectacular! I think it depends on the bottle. Overall, I have had more consistantly better bottles of the vesuvio, but some bottles of the Dow are mind boggling - significantly better than vesuvio. It's probably not the bottle, but my palate at the time... but I have to call it as I taste it.

By the way, the 2003 is extremely good also. Not quite up to the quality of those two, but I was surprised how much better the Dow showed against some more venerated names.

-Dave-

Derek T. · Post by **Derek T.** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:13 am

I'm going to agree with my good friend Ronald here and go for the 1980. It was a WOW moment at a large informal Offline in the UK last summer and really was a lovely surprise.

Derek

David Spriggs · Post by **David Spriggs** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:56 pm

I agree that the 1980 is super. I put in a tasting note the other day on this: http://www.fortheloveofport.com/ftlopfo ... php?t=4836
It's certainly a HUGE success in that vintage.

-Dave-

Ted D · Post by **Ted D** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:31 am

I'm voting 1991, and happy to have picked up a few a $35/bottle just a year or two ago

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