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Advice Needed

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:43 am
by *HarWhomeHolla
Hi All

I'm hoping i have finally found somewhere for advice on the wine i have.

It has been in my possession for over 50 years and was found in a loft clearence when i was a your kid.

The picture is not great, but im really hopeing someone can give me some information on it as no-one anywhere has been able to help me out.

Here is the pic :

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Thanks for your help, if anyone knows anything, such as year it was made or anything would be a great help.

Thanks
Dean

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:37 am
by Alan Gardner
Hi Dean,
Don't know that wine specifically - but may be able to help a bit.
The wicker capsule may help to date this. I've only seen it on bottles containing vintages 1910 and 1920 but vintage madeira is bottled 20+ years after the vintage date so these were probably bottled in the 30's-40's . HOWEVER it's the sort of thing that might later be copied for sale to tourists in souvenir shops.
The size of the bottle also tends to support the latter - many tourist shops on the island sell 'small' souvenir samples.

The producer/brand is certainly below the radar - may have been just for such souvenirs.

However, on the upside, I have found references to El Rei - but only for Sercial madeira (the driest style) - and that was in a cooking reference.
So indeed it could be 'very old' - but I suspect it wasn't of particularly noteworthy quality and was probably a souvenir - maybe sold as a cooking wine.

Probably little (if any) commercial value. But indeed may have plenty of sentimental value.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:04 am
by Reidar Andersen
Alan, you are so right. It must be some souvenirbottle........

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:50 am
by Peter Reutter
El-Rei is, better was, a cheap Madeira blend produced by Blandy. The labels and bottles I have seen so far would suggest that they stopped producing that wine sometime in the 1950ies or 1960ies. The labels would not even state a type of wine (like "full rich") let aside mentioning a grape variety. So unfortunately the bottle and the wine itself have no significant value. Even though Madeira is quite durable, considering the small volume of the bottle and the storage conditions, I would guess that the wine might no longer be pleasant to drink - if it ever was. Sorry there is nothing more positive to say about this bottle :(

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:52 am
by Peter Reutter
And one more thing:
Since the wine has been blended, of course there is no vintage date.