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What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:23 am
by Roy Hersh
In fact, make that non-fortified ... as I'd like to learn what table wines you folks are enjoying these days.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:55 am
by Frederick Blais
I had many but one I will never forget is Montrachet 2004 from DRC.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:28 am
by Todd Pettinger
They
make non-fortified wines???

I had no idea!!!
Why? :?
Okay, you'll all laugh and know just how cheap I am, but my wife has taken love to a wine neither of us have ever had before -
Jackson Triggs White Merlot. Much better than most of the rose wines, this one actually had some real grape component to it instead of an abundance of strawberries, raspberries, etc. I don't drink a lot of non-fortified wines (what little wine budget I have is better directed to Port - much more enjoyment for me) so this would have to be the best I've had this year. It is easy drinking when nice and cold on a hot day and pairs well with... well, nothing, but that hasn't stopped us from
trying to find things it goes with. Pizza, chicken, fish, steak, roast... whatever. Neither of us is picky. :help:
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:38 am
by Glenn E.
I don't drink that stuff, but my wife does and I always taste what she's having just to see what it's like.
I'd have to say that the best bottle we've opened in 2008 is probably the 2004 Innocent Bystander. It's a Sangiovese/Merlot/Cabernet Sauvignon blend (42/40/18) and it's quite good.
We've opened a number of very good bottles this year, but that one stands out because of it's value - you should be able to find it in the $12-$15 range.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:57 pm
by Eric Ifune
Best so far, a 1959 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Feinste Auslese. Unfortunately, I've only one more bottle.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:32 pm
by Andy Velebil
1976 Dom Perignon Oenotheque
What a great champagne and it was the first bottle that I ever sabred

Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:06 pm
by Frederick Blais
Andy Velebil wrote:1976 Dom Perignon Oenotheque
What a great champagne and it was the first bottle that I ever sabred

OMG, you are courageous, it is an awesome bottle to waste if you miss with the sabre :)
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:18 am
by Andy Velebil
Frederick Blais wrote:Andy Velebil wrote:1976 Dom Perignon Oenotheque
What a great champagne and it was the first bottle that I ever sabred

OMG, you are courageous, it is an awesome bottle to waste if you miss with the sabre :)
We actually opened 2 bottles of it that night, along with an old Krug magnum, Salon, DRC, and other rare burgs and Bord. It was quite the evening that lasted about 12 hours. And oh yes, I was scared out of my mind sabering a bottle like that as my first. Luckily, I did it right and it came off perfectly.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:47 pm
by Gary Banker
A toss-up for two very different wines:
1995 Girardin Volnay "Les Champans"
2002 J.J. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett
As a rule, I prefer the Germans, but this was a very nice burgundy. And I was surprised to find that I haven't had any Tokaji for quite a while. I'll have to open one this week.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:49 pm
by Derek T.
Roy Hersh wrote:In fact, make that non-fortified
Can someone please tell me what non-fortified wine is?

Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:07 pm
by Frederick Blais
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:03 pm
by Luc Gauthier
Derek T. wrote:Roy Hersh wrote:In fact, make that non-fortified
Can someone please tell me what non-fortified wine is?

A non fortified wine is a liquid that should not be able to make one visit a porcelain god

Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:06 pm
by Heather Hathwell
hmmm. not counting tastings maybe 96 Lagrange St Julien.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:16 pm
by Andy Velebil
Heather,
Glad to see ya back...hope all has been well with you? Check out the offline planner, we're having a little gathering later in October here in L.A.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:09 am
by Moses Botbol
The wine Fred brought to Boston was pretty over-the-top. Maybe he can shed light on what it is... I know that it was a cuvee of different vintages of a Rhone producer.
Other than that, 1979 Lafite and a couple of 70's Diamond Creeks.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:41 pm
by Heather Hathwell
If Roy's gatherings count, then I should maybe revise my choice to the 97 Pahlmeyer or the 97 Faiveley (can't recall which one, but I do think generally it was a Nuits St George...) that was brought to the San Francisco Madeira Road Show event in April....... others may say that for the night, for non-fortifieds it was the Chateau Palmer but since I didn't taste it I'm not gonna go there......
Andy: Would love to join up in October (I will at least be back by then). Although it is the same era as the March tasting and apart from the fabulous May tastings in the Douro I haven't had much other port, I am sure there will be several bottles entirely new to me (and hopefully the percentage of corked bottles will be lower) so I look forward to it and will go note it on your other thread. Thx for the invite, I was a little reserved about it.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:02 pm
by Andy Velebil
Heather Hathwell wrote:
Andy: Would love to join up in October (I will at least be back by then). Although it is the same era as the March tasting and apart from the fabulous May tastings in the Douro I haven't had much other port, I am sure there will be several bottles entirely new to me (and hopefully the percentage of corked bottles will be lower) so I look forward to it and will go note it on your other thread. Thx for the invite, I was a little reserved about it.
We would love to have you join us. Since it's at my place it's very informal and a fun time. I'll put you down.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:50 am
by Kris Henderson
Looking through my notes in cellartracker, the best bottled I've had so far in 2008 would be 1990 La Mission Haut Brion.
Honorable mention goes to:
1989 Montrose
2005 Pegau Cuvee Reservee
1976 Leroy Vosne-Romanee 1er Cru
I've really spoiled myself this year. I should cut back because I think I'm starting to become a little jaded.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:26 pm
by Erik Wiechers
Best i had so far is 2003 Robertson Winery Shiraz Wolfkloof .
A thick yet sweet wine filled with fruit, nuts and figs. My housewine at the moment.
Re: What is the best NON-PORT bottle of wine you've had in 2008?
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:26 am
by João Rico
Well, for me:
DRC La Tâche 2002
1910 Fajã do Padres (Madeira)
Some huge wines:
Niepoort Robustus 2004
Coche-Dury Mersault 1999
Giacomo Conterno Barolo Riserva 1995
Vega Sicilia Único 1986
Mouchão 1970
Barca Velha 1999
Clos Martinet 2000
Domaine du Pegau Cuvee reserve 2004
1870 Mavasia Caves Casa da Calçada