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D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:06 am
by Moses Botbol
What do the madeira experts think of D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" or the Sweet version?

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:09 am
by Roy Hersh
I will check TNs tomorrow, from my visit to D'Oliveiras in May. We had so many amazing bottles that afternoon, I can't remember if we tried that one at the beginning or not.

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:18 am
by Gary Banker
I tried the D'Oliveira's sweet or medium sweet about two years ago in Acton when Grape Moments started pushing D'Oliveira's. I thought it was very good. Buy it. I also bought the 15-year Meio Seco, which was overpriced at $57, IMHO. The D'Oliveira's wines are a good addition to the market.

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:23 am
by Moses Botbol
Gary Banker wrote:I tried the D'Oliveira's sweet or medium sweet about two years ago in Acton when Grape Moments started pushing D'Oliveira's. I thought it was very good. Buy it. I also bought the 15-year Meio Seco, which was overpriced at $57, IMHO. The D'Oliveira's wines are a good addition to the market.
At $57, that is not much of a mark up. So, you think the sweet was better?

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:27 am
by Gary Banker
Moses Botbol wrote:
Gary Banker wrote:I tried the D'Oliveira's sweet or medium sweet about two years ago in Acton when Grape Moments started pushing D'Oliveira's. I thought it was very good. Buy it. I also bought the 15-year Meio Seco, which was overpriced at $57, IMHO. The D'Oliveira's wines are a good addition to the market.
At $57, that is not much of a mark up. So, you think the sweet was better?
I thought that the sweet wine was better. I like verdelho and terrantez, but thought that the meio seco did not measure up to the sweet one. But that was two years ago.

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:15 am
by Roy Hersh
Moses,

Have you tried the 15 year old Malmsey by H.M. Borges?

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:57 pm
by Eric Ifune
Have you tried the 15 year old Malmsey by H.M. Borges?
Roy,
Any word if they're getting a US importer?

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:41 pm
by Roy Hersh
Yes, it is a local company based here in the Seattle area. I should have more information next week, when I see the rep from that company.

Roy

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:38 am
by Moses Botbol
Roy Hersh wrote:Yes, it is a local company based here in the Seattle area. I should have more information next week, when I see the rep from that company.

Roy
Aidil Wines & Liquors in mighty New Bedford, MA is our local distributor

I see "H.M. BORGES OLD RESERVA MALMESEY VELHA 10yrs. OLD" for around $300.00 a case.

Do you think it is worth that price?

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:57 am
by Moses Botbol
Roy Hersh wrote:Moses,

Have you tried the 15 year old Malmsey by H.M. Borges?
No, I don't see that from the importer.

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:56 pm
by Eric Ifune
If available, the 15 yo Malmsey from Borges would be house Madiera for sure.
Good news Roy!

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:03 pm
by Gary Banker
Moses,

What did you decide to get?

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:46 am
by Moses Botbol
Gary Banker wrote:Moses,

What did you decide to get?
Not yet.

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:58 am
by Gary Banker
Moses,

I recently bought D'Oliveira's 1973 boal for $65/bottle from DePrez in New York. The importer was Aidil Wine & Liquor from New Jersey. Is this the same/affiliated distributor that you mentioned from New Bedford? If so, and they have the 1973B, it is an excellent QPR

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:26 am
by Moses Botbol
Gary Banker wrote:Moses,

I recently bought D'Oliveira's 1973 boal for $65/bottle from DePrez in New York. The importer was Aidil Wine & Liquor from New Jersey. Is this the same/affiliated distributor that you mentioned from New Bedford? If so, and they have the 1973B, it is an excellent QPR

Thanks for head's up. If I can get it a little cheaper, are you interested in some?

Re: D'Oliveiras 15 years "Medium Sweet" - Opinions?

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:43 pm
by Gary Banker
Yes, I would be interested. I would also like to know what other vintages or 10/15 year wines they carry. RWC does not import all of the vintages of madeira that are being produced