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Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:45 am
by Marco D.
I have a question on this wine. I always thought that it was from the 1973 vintage (but could not be advertised as such due to labeling regulations). I just saw one of Roy's tasting notes on this wine that mentioned it had some wine from the 1972 vintage. Is this just on some bottlings, or are all bottles of this wine a blend of 1972 and 1973?

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:54 am
by Glenn E.
I've always heard that the Casa de Santa Eufemia is a 1973, but I've recently seen notes that say the Quinta de Santa Eufemia is a 1972. Since both labels came from the same estate you'd think they'd be the same, but it's possible that when the estate split that one side got the '72 and the other side got the '73.

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:21 am
by Andy Velebil
If my memory serves me, when the split happened they also split the wines. When Quinta Santa Eufemia came out with theirs it was a blend of the 72/73. Whereas Casa Santa Eufemia only put it out as a single year (1973) even though it can't be labeled as such.

Of course i could be wrong, as I was tasting, taking notes, listening and talking at the same time when I first tried the Casa S.E. with an employee in Portugal a couple years ago...so hopefully someone else that was there could verify or set me straight.

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:12 pm
by Marco D.
At AVEPOD, I thought it was mentioned that the Casa dSE was all 1973, but I could be wrong as well.

Roy's note that mentions a 1972 component is for the Casa, not Quinta... I'm confused. His note is from 10/22/2005. Maybe back then it was a blend?

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:40 pm
by Glenn E.
Marco D. wrote:At AVEPOD, I thought it was mentioned that the Casa dSE was all 1973, but I could be wrong as well.
That's what Maria Teresa told me as well when I visited AVEPOD.

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:54 pm
by Marco D.
Andy Velebil wrote:...so hopefully someone else that was there could verify or set me straight.
I just looked at my "hand scribbled" notes from the Roy's 2007 Harvest Tour. On October 1, 2007 we visited AVEPOD. I wrote down "1973" in parenthesis next to the the Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port, which leads me to think they mentioned it was all 1973... maybe I mis-heard?

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:40 pm
by Andy Velebil
The "Casa" one is all from 1973..my birth year, so I vividly remember that part of the discussion.

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:56 am
by Marco D.
Andy Velebil wrote:The "Casa" one is all from 1973..my birth year, so I vividly remember that part of the discussion.
That's what I thought. Perhaps this tasting note from Roy is mis-categorized? Perhaps it should be the "Quinta" and not the "Casa"? Roy?

http://www.fortheloveofport.com/index.p ... Itemid=157

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:25 pm
by goncalo devesas
Glenn E. wrote:I've always heard that the Casa de Santa Eufemia is a 1973, but I've recently seen notes that say the Quinta de Santa Eufemia is a 1972. Since both labels came from the same estate you'd think they'd be the same, but it's possible that when the estate split that one side got the '72 and the other side got the '73.
Well Glenn, I´ve already talked with them (Quinta de Santa Eufemia) and it´s confirmed that when they became two different states they only had a 1972, afther that I don´t know nothing about the 1973.

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:32 pm
by Glenn E.
Interesting, thanks for checking Goncalo!

Re: Casa de Santa Eufemia Special Reserve White Port

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:11 am
by Marco D.
goncalo devesas wrote:Well Glenn, I´ve already talked with them (Quinta de Santa Eufemia) and it´s confirmed that when they became two different states they only had a 1972, afther that I don´t know nothing about the 1973.
So if they only had a 1972 at the time of the split, then both cuvees would be 1972 (bummer for Andy) or the Casa acquired some 1973 elsewhere after the split?