#4: What is your favorite vintage of Niepoort's VP?
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#4: What is your favorite vintage of Niepoort's VP?
Yes, there are many wonderful Colheitas and Garrafeiras and at some point we'll explore that category too, but for now ... PLEASE stick to Vintage Ports.
Can you pick just one from all the beauties that are out there in terms of the VPs?
Can you pick just one from all the beauties that are out there in terms of the VPs?
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I see going to make us suffer for a bit
Although I've had a number of older Colheita's and a couple Garrafeiras now, this is going to be tough as their older VP's are quite rare and I can't recall ever having one with significant age on it.
So here is one of my favorite VP's so far...the 2003.
Although I've had a number of older Colheita's and a couple Garrafeiras now, this is going to be tough as their older VP's are quite rare and I can't recall ever having one with significant age on it.
So here is one of my favorite VP's so far...the 2003.
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When I consider the Niepoort Vintage Ports I've had and the 4 generations of Niepoort Port makers, spanning 1912/1927/1931/1942/1945/1963/1970/1985 and then all of Dirk's vintages from 1987 on, it is so very tough to pick just one of those.
It would be easy to pick which one I believe is the GREATEST Niepoort I have ever tasted as the 1927 put me on a different stratosphere and I've only had that once. But the question raised was about choosing just one, favorite Niepoort and that is more difficult with all of the standouts in the first half of the 20th century and the slew of greats in the past 15 years.
Back in May of 2003, when Dirk first visited me here in Seattle for a three day Port-athon with friends from near and far, there was one tasting that has helped me to focus on the answer here. I was able to try most of the legends that weekend and then Dirk put me on the spot with a few friends.
On the Saturday morning, I took a very small group of friends ito what is considered one of the best wineries in WA State. Their winemaker said he wished he could drink Port with us. Dirk laughed and pulled out a bag and told me that he had chosen my top two picks from the recently released vintage and brought those two VPs for me to taste blind side-by-side. I thought it odd he had brought these to the winery. A few of my friends were able to participate with Dirk and me (Richard Mayson was part of the gang and FTLOPer Nicos Neocleous amongst the four or five).
The bottle I chose after we had consumed a glass of each (blind - pop and pour style) was the 2000 Niepoort. In the other bottle was the 2000 Fonseca. I have had the Niepoort from Y2k many times from cask sample and finished bottle and as Frederick chose, my favorite is also the 2000 Niepoort, which was also the first time I had bought pre-release Niepoort by the case.
It would be easy to pick which one I believe is the GREATEST Niepoort I have ever tasted as the 1927 put me on a different stratosphere and I've only had that once. But the question raised was about choosing just one, favorite Niepoort and that is more difficult with all of the standouts in the first half of the 20th century and the slew of greats in the past 15 years.
Back in May of 2003, when Dirk first visited me here in Seattle for a three day Port-athon with friends from near and far, there was one tasting that has helped me to focus on the answer here. I was able to try most of the legends that weekend and then Dirk put me on the spot with a few friends.
On the Saturday morning, I took a very small group of friends ito what is considered one of the best wineries in WA State. Their winemaker said he wished he could drink Port with us. Dirk laughed and pulled out a bag and told me that he had chosen my top two picks from the recently released vintage and brought those two VPs for me to taste blind side-by-side. I thought it odd he had brought these to the winery. A few of my friends were able to participate with Dirk and me (Richard Mayson was part of the gang and FTLOPer Nicos Neocleous amongst the four or five).
The bottle I chose after we had consumed a glass of each (blind - pop and pour style) was the 2000 Niepoort. In the other bottle was the 2000 Fonseca. I have had the Niepoort from Y2k many times from cask sample and finished bottle and as Frederick chose, my favorite is also the 2000 Niepoort, which was also the first time I had bought pre-release Niepoort by the case.
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Alex,
You mentioned that you don't really particularly like the Niepoort style of VPs. I realize it must be a stylistic preference and something that does not appeal to your palate.
Can you describe what that is? I know you like their Colheitas, but I am talking about the VPs which you had referred to. Thanks.
You mentioned that you don't really particularly like the Niepoort style of VPs. I realize it must be a stylistic preference and something that does not appeal to your palate.
Can you describe what that is? I know you like their Colheitas, but I am talking about the VPs which you had referred to. Thanks.
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Re: #4: What is your favorite vintage of Niepoort's VP?
It has been deemed fitting and proper that this particular thread, with some fine posts, should be made more current with those that have had significantly more Niepoort experiences than they had in the past 28 months since this thread was begun. Whilst others may have just explored Niepoort for the very first time. A timely parallel discussion to the visit from our Guest Corner Host.
Either way ...
Have at it!
Either way ...
Have at it!
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Re: #4: What is your favorite vintage of Niepoort's VP?
I've only had a couple, but from those I'd have to say that the 1997 and 2000 are both outstanding. For my palate the 1997 is drinking better right now, but the 2000 is probably going to be one for the ages.
What's ironic is that the only reason I've had the 1997 is because I made a mistake - I thought I was ordering a 6-pack of the 2000. Now that I've tried it, though, I'm glad I messed up the order!
What's ironic is that the only reason I've had the 1997 is because I made a mistake - I thought I was ordering a 6-pack of the 2000. Now that I've tried it, though, I'm glad I messed up the order!
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Re: #4: What is your favorite vintage of Niepoort's VP?
I love the 2003 Niepoort.... my favorite to date. However, the 2007 may be better than that... but it's early days yet for that one. The 2003 is still stunning and drinking surprisingingly well. I would have expected it to be a bit more closed down. I have no doubts that it will make an outastanding older Port.
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Re: #4: What is your favorite vintage of Niepoort's VP?
Roy,
Don't forget the 1960 we had at the first FTLOP gala.
Don't forget the 1960 we had at the first FTLOP gala.