For The Love Of Port

Moses Botbol wrote:Does anyone have an en primeur matrix for the last decade or so?

This one goes back to 2004

Rob C. wrote:

Moses Botbol wrote:Does anyone have an en primeur matrix for the last decade or so?

This one goes back to 2004

For vintage port

Moses Botbol wrote:My shot from the hip pricing analysis of vintages.

Would love to hear from others if I am off base, but I consider in order from Symingtons; Grahams>Warre>Vesuvio>Dow from high to low in price. Nothing to do with quality or volume. I have no idea how much is made of one brand vs another on any given vintage.

Not unreasonable. Disregarding any particular year, or perhaps for say the 2015s, I expect:
Taylor > Fonseca > Grahams > Dow > Warre > Vesuvio
If I were to throw Noval into the mix, I'd probably put it around the Dow range.

Looking at 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 release prices in the UK, i didn't notice a huge difference across any of the big TFP/SFE names you were mentioning.

In 2007, if i recall, all the big names came out on first release at £380 - 410ib per case of 12 (except the "special cuvee" types - eg: Capela)

2008 Noval was exactly the same pricing as 2007 Noval, i think (£400 - 410ib per case depending on merchant)

In 2009, Warre was about £20ib per 6-pack more pricey than Taylor, which came out at £190ib per 6-pack (Dow Ribeira and Vesuvio were about the same price as Taylor - £180ib i think). Croft pricing was slightly softer than the other big Taylor/SFE brands if i remember correctly.

Niepoort Bioma jumped from £180ib per 6-pack in 2008 to £260ib in 2009, and was the most expensive VP i saw offered in 2009 en primeur save TVV.