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Lol, that's very strange because after A.S. Demka posted he had bought the last 12 remaining bottles of Bonificador, I reached out to Pocas. They said they had one on the floor which I said I'd buy. They then came back and said they found 1 more back in the warehouse so I bought that as well. If I had known they had 5 more laying around I probably would have bought a few more. Oh well, enjoy!Roy Hersh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:38 pm I am not buying much new Port, (I keep saying that!) but after posting about the Pocas Bonficador recently, yesterday, I circled back and found that they still had five of the original release of this Port. Not wanting to wipe them out, I purchased four of them. So they do have one left from their original series of 733. Now I can feel free to share with friends again.
The story doesn’t end here….. After sharing two great bottles with friends over the weekend, I contacted Poças on December 16 to check whether they were completely out of stock or not. They still had four (!), and these were sent to me the next day. In hindsight I feel a little selfish, so to make this up to you, I’ll take a bottle of Bonificador with me on my next PHT2 trip! Kind regards, Alle de Muinck KeizerMike J. W. wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:38 pmLol, that's very strange because after A.S. Demka posted he had bought the last 12 remaining bottles of Bonificador, I reached out to Pocas. They said they had one on the floor which I said I'd buy. They then came back and said they found 1 more back in the warehouse so I bought that as well. If I had known they had 5 more laying around I probably would have bought a few more. Oh well, enjoy!Roy Hersh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:38 pm I am not buying much new Port, (I keep saying that!) but after posting about the Pocas Bonficador recently, yesterday, I circled back and found that they still had five of the original release of this Port. Not wanting to wipe them out, I purchased four of them. So they do have one left from their original series of 733. Now I can feel free to share with friends again.
Lol. That's too funny. Someone needs to have a chat with their Inventory Control Manager.A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:44 pmThe story doesn’t end here….. After sharing two great bottles with friends over the weekend, I contacted Poças on December 16 to check whether they were completely out of stock or not. They still had four (!), and these were sent to me the next day. In hindsight I feel a little selfish, so to make this up to you, I’ll take a bottle of Bonificador with me on my next PHT2 trip! Kind regards, Alle de Muinck KeizerMike J. W. wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:38 pmLol, that's very strange because after A.S. Demka posted he had bought the last 12 remaining bottles of Bonificador, I reached out to Pocas. They said they had one on the floor which I said I'd buy. They then came back and said they found 1 more back in the warehouse so I bought that as well. If I had known they had 5 more laying around I probably would have bought a few more. Oh well, enjoy!Roy Hersh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:38 pm I am not buying much new Port, (I keep saying that!) but after posting about the Pocas Bonficador recently, yesterday, I circled back and found that they still had five of the original release of this Port. Not wanting to wipe them out, I purchased four of them. So they do have one left from their original series of 733. Now I can feel free to share with friends again.
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That's exactly how I understood it at the Pocas tasting last May.Glenn E. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:52 pm We were told back in May that it was a previous blend that was theoretically slated to be used as a further blending component in their TWAIOA line, but that it had matured so nicely that they decided to bottle it separately. The implication being that they couldn't (easily) make more just by blending, because doing so would require blending and then further aging in the right barrels in order to try to replicate the same unique experience.
I.e. this wasn't planned, it was a happy accident. Conceptually similar to Sandeman Cask 33 from 2014, which was nominally slated to be a component of their 40 Year Old blend but was bottled separately for their 225th Anniversary because it had aged uniquely.
At least, that's the impression that I came away with from the visit.
I haven’t seen my four bottles yet as I am on holidays in the USA and Mexico until Sunday. More news here on Monday!Mike J. W. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:29 am I'm awaiting delivery of mine. They cleared Customs in NYC, but haven't moved from there yet. I hope to see them early next week. I'll post pics on here when I receive them (I don't have Facebook or Instagram).
The previous bottles were numbered 227, 230, 234, 244, 253, 259, 295, 302, 303, 329, 333, 374.A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:51 pmI haven’t seen my four bottles yet as I am on holidays in the USA and Mexico until Sunday. More news here on Monday!Mike J. W. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:29 am I'm awaiting delivery of mine. They cleared Customs in NYC, but haven't moved from there yet. I hope to see them early next week. I'll post pics on here when I receive them (I don't have Facebook or Instagram).
, they are soooo good!I have one that looks hand-numbered and is 093.A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:48 am The previous bottles were numbered 227, 230, 234, 244, 253, 259, 295, 302, 303, 329, 333, 374.
The four new ones 246, 443, 601 and 627. All numbers were printed on the labels, with exception of bottle nr 627. This number was hand written. I wonder whether all the other ‘last’ bottles had numbers written by hand as well.
Yep, the rule changed. IIRC the rules changed in 2017 to allow for the selo to be integrated with the back label, or stickered to the back if there's no back label. Many producers still use the over-the-cork traditional selos, but they're no longer required.A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:47 am After Roy's 2022 Vintage tasting report I bought 8 bottles of Vargellas 2022 and 8 bottles of Vesuvio 2022 through Portugal Vineyards in Porto.
When I opened the packages this afternoon I saw that on all bottles the 'Selo de Garantia' was missing on the bottle opening under the capsule. The Vesuvio's have a small sticker stating Symington Family Estate plus a number, the Vargellas has an easy to peel off sticker around the capsule stating by appointment to H.M. Queen, etc.
Below the labels on the back of the bottles there were 'new' numbered Selo stickers (1 X 2 inches). Is this new, or have I missed something?
Thanks Glenn!Glenn E. wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:06 pmYep, the rule changed. IIRC the rules changed in 2017 to allow for the selo to be integrated with the back label, or stickered to the back if there's no back label. Many producers still use the over-the-cork traditional selos, but they're no longer required.A.S. Demka wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:47 am After Roy's 2022 Vintage tasting report I bought 8 bottles of Vargellas 2022 and 8 bottles of Vesuvio 2022 through Portugal Vineyards in Porto.
When I opened the packages this afternoon I saw that on all bottles the 'Selo de Garantia' was missing on the bottle opening under the capsule. The Vesuvio's have a small sticker stating Symington Family Estate plus a number, the Vargellas has an easy to peel off sticker around the capsule stating by appointment to H.M. Queen, etc.
Below the labels on the back of the bottles there were 'new' numbered Selo stickers (1 X 2 inches). Is this new, or have I missed something?
Graham's The Stone Terraces 2017 used the new back label integration, as I recall.