For The Love Of Port

These favicon posts were moved by a moderator from the thread entitled NEW FTLOP Website is LIVE !!!.


The old logo, of a bottle lying down, , seems to have gone, and been replaced with a new three-bottle arrangement. FTLoP hence needs a new icon, which should also be used as a favicon (the 16×16 picture appearing next to the URL).

A first draft:

I admit to not loving the first draft, but that is the nature of a first draft. Suggested improvements welcomed from anybody — but the final decision is Roy’s and his alone.

(The draft is in .GIF format, for use as an image on a page. To use it as a favicon it will have to be converted to .ICO, which can be done once the design has been approved.)

Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:The old logo, of a bottle lying down, , seems to have gone, and been replaced with a new three-bottle arrangement. FTLoP hence needs a new icon, which should also be used as a favicon (the 16×16 picture appearing next to the URL).

A first draft:

I admit to not loving the first draft, but that is the nature of a first draft. Suggested improvements welcomed from anybody — but the final decision is Roy’s and his alone.

(The draft is in .GIF format, for use as an image on a page. To use it as a favicon it will have to be converted to .ICO, which can be done once the design has been approved.)

I see no reason why the original favicon could not continue to be used, if wanted; it also benefits from being clear and easily readable, and the bottle image clearly a bottle.

The new logo, if a square box were drawn around it does not easily facilitate the addition of letters above or below. In your draft you have effectively cut off a little of the bottom part, plus allowed space between the bottles. An alternative would be to instead cut off the white space above, so extending the bottles slightly, plus allow then the overlap as per original, so that you could then place the FTLoP letters over the bottles instead (likely in white, perhaps). Not sure how that might look, just a thought.

Alternatively, perhaps one vertical bottle, at the right of the box, with FTLo on the left in black and P in red within the bottle on the right?

Some drafts, just to inspire comments, likes, dislikes, and other ideas for variations:                    

Pondering the previous post. More anon.

Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:Some drafts, just to inspire comments, likes, dislikes, and other ideas for variations:                    

Pondering the previous post. More anon.

Your second one, possibly with the bottle neck shortened (halved) and the outside bottles moved up a little (half-neck-length) might work. (note, I edited the above post with additional idea while colliding with you posting :)

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I don’t like the bottles touching.

I didn’t love the first draft, but does appeal. It has room to breathe, whilst including the essentials.

But will it please Roy?

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Not bad for a mere 110 bytes.

Phil W wrote:An alternative would be to instead cut off the white space above, so extending the bottles slightly, plus allow then the overlap as per original, so that you could then place the FTLoP letters over the bottles instead (likely in white, perhaps).

The vertical of the F must be against the left margin. There isn’t room for a one pixel border — such is the nature of a width of 16 pixels. Having a white vertical against the left edge wouldn’t work in a white URL bar, and most URL bars are white.

Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:I didn’t love the first draft, but does appeal. It has room to breathe, whilst including the essentials.

But will it please Roy?

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Not bad for a mere 110 bytes.

Minor variants could also include making the P the same height as the FTL, or vice versa? Also optionally red vs black bottle.

Agree regarding lack of room for border if overlapping bottles, that kills that idea I think.

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My preference still

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with second-place

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Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:Suggested improvements welcomed from anybody — but the final decision is Roy’s and his alone.

Edit: maybe the neck should be shortened by one pixel, and the bulk of the bottle lengthened by same. Hmm.

Ignoring the colour for a moment, I like three of them (of which we agree on two):       probably in that order.
I like the red bottle, which would work with any of them, though I would suggest a slightly darker red than selected in

Edit: maybe the neck should be shortened by one pixel, and the bulk of the bottle lengthened by same. Hmm.

Agree.

Out of interest - in the above the F looks as through there is a one-pixel spacing between top and middle horizontal lines; does the wider space have 2 or 3? If 3, might a 2-spaced look better as a compromise between the small and stretched styles?

Not at my computer (Tapatalk), so no further versions for now.

We seem to agree, but before going much further some input from Roy would be helpful.

The shorter F has a gap of one pixel between the horizontals; the taller F has a gap of two.

Julian D. A. Wiseman wrote:Drafts:                                                            

I understand the limitations imposed by a 16 x 16 image, but I think the 'o' is needed. My favorites are (in order):

Phil W wrote:I like three of them (of which we agree on two):       probably in that order.

Glenn E. wrote:My favorites are (in order):

Input from Roy genuinely needed.

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06 looks great!

When I go to Photo & Video I only find the Video and no photos. Am I missing something?

Well to be honest, I am not so sure that we won't just stick with the old horizontal bottle favicon. The new website's logo has been used on the header of the FTLOP newsletter for 4-5+ years now. I also do prefer a capitalized O as in FTLOP, not FTLoP. That being said, while I had hoped for some real feedback on the new website, I had zero thoughts that this would turn into a favicon discussion topic. I will leave it to our moderators to split this off into its very own topic.

That being said, I do appreciate all of Julian's efforts and will keep an open mind, if I do see a favicon that is better than the one he originally designed for us many years ago.

Then it remains.

Please do split this discussion.

Done.

I like #4. Though would be nice if the "O" would be the same size as the other letters.