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1985 Grahams
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:17 pm
by Don Cornutt
This wine drinks so well.
What are the chances of this developing more complexity?
Is this as good as it is going to get?
Thanks,
Don
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:43 pm
by Richard Henderson
I have replied on this wine many times. It was my first case purchase of wine to lay down in 1989. I am down to 3 bottles. I am seeing signs of q's ( doubts)as to whether it will be like the 63 and 66.
I liked it better 5-8 years ago.
Some say it will get better and be a classic.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:57 pm
by Marc J.
I have some of this in my cellar and I'd say that it is on a long plateau - therefore it might develop a little more complexity in the upcoming years, but probably not a whole lot more.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:44 pm
by Scott Anaya
This is my house VP, though only because it is the only VP that I have ever bought a case of. But boy, am I lucky as this has been drinking beautiful for all these past six years so far. Since I had not tasted this wine prior to 2001, I don't know where it has been structure-wise, but by my memory it has been drinking the same for me over the past 6 years, so maybe no future development? I only now have 1 or 2 bottles left.
Caution: My opinion is just a guess as I am no expert, as the best thing I do with Port is drink it

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:03 pm
by Jamie Kutch
I have always been a big fan of the 85 Grahams as the quality is high given the price point. While it has been about 1 year since my last bottle, it showed no signs of declining.
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:10 pm
by Ted D
I've drank a fair bit of this too and love it, however it seems relatively primary to me compared to the 70 for example (which I didn't try in its youth).
I think it's got a long way to go and will evolve. I'll probably like it better older, but it's a question of preference. I think it's still a baby!
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:37 pm
by Paul David
You guys are right -it's over the hill & will be dead shortly....PM me with any bottles you want to unload :twisted:
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:54 pm
by Steve Saxon
This is the wine that got me into port...love it.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:48 am
by Richard Beeken
I have the opportunity to pull the trigger on a bunch of this at $80-ish C, but I know it not. How does it compare to the 85 Fonseca?
Very good
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:42 am
by Bjørn Tore Aastorp Ruud
I like this port very much, I think it will develope further for many years.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:06 am
by Paul David
Richard, in typical style the Graham is sweeter and appears richer in fruit. It is a crowd pleaser very nice to share with folks who are not big into port as great intro. That said the 85 Fonseca is also very nice IMHO these are the nicest ports of the vintage at least of the ones I had tried-surprisingly I didn't care much for Taylor that year.
Re: Very good
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:48 am
by nicos neocleous
Bjørn Tore Aastorp Ruud wrote:I like this port very much, I think it will develope further for many years.
I'd agree with this. I am trying to keep my hands off my remaining bottles.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:59 am
by Moses Botbol
Richard Beeken wrote:I have the opportunity to pull the trigger on a bunch of this at $80-ish C, but I know it not. How does it compare to the 85 Fonseca?
I think the 85 Grahams is the best '85 Vintage I have tried so far. Even at $80.00 it's good buy as this port will a legend in another 10 years. The difference in tasted compared to the Grahams '83 is noticable. We drank an '85 Grahams Magnum this winter and it was on my all time Top 10 favorites; wish I could find another one...