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Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:24 pm
by Chris G.
My mother in law has decided to sell her Port collection. Has been stored in original cases in a climate controlled cellar. Located in Marietta, GA. Please message me if there's anything you're interested in. I will update this list as need be. Will sell by the case or entire collection. I'm happy to provide pictures and answer any questions to the best of my ability. I am not a Port expert so please bear with me if I ask for more specifics to your questions. Thanks

1991 Graham 7 full cases, 8 in partial case
1992 Fonseca 1 full case, 11 in partial case
1985 Fonseca 2 full cases, 5 in partial case
1977 Fonseca 2 full cases. 5 in partial case
1991 Fonseca Guimaraens 1 full case
1985 Graham 2 full cases, 1 full open, 9 in partial case
1977 Taylor 1 full open
1994 Vesuvio 4 full cases, 2 in partial case, 3 in partial case
1992 Vesuvio 1 full case, 5 in partial case
1991 Vesuvio 1 full case
1994 Dow 6 full cases
1994 Graham 4 full cases, 1 full open, 10 in patial case
1994 Fonseca 9 full cases, 1 full open
1994 Taylor 6 full cases, 5 in partial case
1990 Vesuvio 1 full case
1992 Graham Malvedos 2 in partial case
1991 Croft 1 full case
1991 Dow 3 full cases
1994 Martinez 1 full case
1983 Cockburn 2 full cases, 8 in partial case
1994 Croft 1 full case, 8 in partial case
1994 Warre 1 full case
1994 Quinta da Eira Velha 3 full cases
1995 Vesuvio 4 full cases
1995 Graham Malvedos 2 full cases
1996 Vesuvio 2 full cases
1997 Vesuvio 2 full cases
1998 Vesuvio 2 full cases, 5 in partial case
1995 Croft Quinta da Roeda 1 full case
1977 Dow 1 full case
1977 Smith-Woodhouse 1 full case open
1995 Fonseca Guimaraens 4 full cases, 10 in partial case
1995 Taylor Vargellas 4 full cases, 10 in partial case
1989 Vesuvio 2 full cases
1983 Ramos Pinto 1 full case
1995 Churchill Agua Alta 1 full case, 5 in partial case
1995 Smith-Woodhouse Madalena 3 full cases
1984 Smith-Woodhouse LBV 1 full case open
1997 Dow 1 full case
1998 Dow Quinta Senhora da Ribeira 5 in partial case
1996 Beringer 7 in partial case
1997 Fonseca 2 full cases
2000 Vesuvio 1 full case

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:28 pm
by Moses Botbol
This is your first post on our site. Care to introduce yourself first?

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:40 pm
by Chris G.
Happy to introduce myself. I'm Chris. Originally from New York, relocated to Georgia many years ago. Interest include cooking, golf, fishing, shooting sports, good cigars and bourbon. Husband to Michelle and father of two teenagers.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:54 pm
by Moses Botbol
How much do you want as one parcel sale?

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:59 pm
by Moses Botbol
Rough estimate is about 30K for the whole thing. That's a lot of port...

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:05 am
by Tom D.
How did your "mother in law" accumulate such a large Port cellar?

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:05 am
by Chris G.
Tom D. wrote:How did your "mother in law" accumulate such a large Port cellar?
My "mother in law"'along with my "father in law"'(who passed away) collected fine wines and Ports for many years.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:30 am
by Andy Velebil
Hi Chris,
Welcome to the Forum. We are a "real names" forum, so I need to ask you to change your username to comply. If you have any issues doing so, please let me know. Thanks and good luck selling your Ports.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:14 pm
by Peter Handel
I'd be interested in cases of the '77 and '94 Fonseca and Taylor Fladgate.

Thanks,
Peter

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:17 pm
by R Bull
I would be interested in 5 bottles of 1977 Fonseca, 9 bottles of the 1985 Graham and 1 case each of the 1994 Fonseca and Taylor.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:36 pm
by Chris G.
Thanks everyone who has expressed interest in purchasing some of the Port that I have listed. I will get back to everyone by this evening or tomorrow at the latest. Chris

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:33 pm
by Eric Menchen
You list full cases, which I presume means 12, but some of those like Quinta do Vesuvio, are typically sold in cases of six. Can you confirm that all of what you have listed are full cases of 12? Personally, I'd be interested in 1997 and 1992 Quinta do Vesuvio wood foot-locker six-packs, and possibly 1977 Smith Woodhouse. But I'll disclaim up front that I'm a total bargain hunter and probably not willing to pay something close to retail for those.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:10 pm
by Roman Dashevsky
I would be interested in 2-Fonseca 1985 and 2-1977

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:41 pm
by Chris G.
Cases of Vesuvio are 6 bottles per case. Everything else is your standard 12 bottles. Partial cases are noted as well.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:40 pm
by Chris G.
Moses Botbol wrote:Rough estimate is about 30K for the whole thing. That's a lot of port...
The low reserve on the 9 cases of 1994 Fonseca is 15,660.00 and the 6 cases of Taylor is 9,360.00. That's almost 25k right there.

My mother in law hired a professional company to appraise the entire collection. She received the appraisal today. Low estimate for everything came in at 74,500.00 and the high estimate was 111,575.00. If it went to auction, total reserve was set at 83,500.00.

I'm quoting bottles and cases pretty much in the middle(close to the reserve) to anyone interested. I'm trying to get some pictures posted on here but every time I try the site tells me my file is too large.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:31 am
by Moses Botbol
Chris G. wrote:
Moses Botbol wrote:Rough estimate is about 30K for the whole thing. That's a lot of port...
The low reserve on the 9 cases of 1994 Fonseca is 15,660.00 and the 6 cases of Taylor is 9,360.00. That's almost 25k right there.

My mother in law hired a professional company to appraise the entire collection. She received the appraisal today. Low estimate for everything came in at 74,500.00 and the high estimate was 111,575.00. If it went to auction, total reserve was set at 83,500.00.

I'm quoting bottles and cases pretty much in the middle(close to the reserve) to anyone interested. I'm trying to get some pictures posted on here but every time I try the site tells me my file is too large.

You have plenty of great stuff (you really do) and there's about 10-15 cases worth I'd consider, but....

Keep in mind getting the wine to the auction house comes at a cost and seller's commissions if they charge them. Auction is your best bet as you don't want to get into parting cases or bottles here and there. You'll have to buy wine shippers, take the risk on damage, etc...

Your '94 Fonseca comes out to $145 a bottle on the 2nd hand market. That is all the money and little hopeful. I'd place the same 9 cases $9000 and be over-the-world. Let's us know who and when you consign your port with! You have a captive audience.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:34 am
by Eric Menchen
I bought 1994 Taylor for 115 each from Christie's, and 1994 Fonseca from Acker at 97 each; that's less than 19k, and subtract out the buyer's premium and you are below 16k. I have a friend that sold a collection appraised similar to yours. I'll ask him what he netted percentage wise vs. the auction house estimate as well as CellarTracker.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:42 am
by Eric Menchen
And checking my notes, I paid 32 for 1994 Martinez from a retailer, 65 for 1994 Vesuvio at retail, 38 at auction complete with the nice wooden cases. These purchases were all in the last five years.

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Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:57 am
by Moses Botbol
Eric Menchen wrote:And checking my notes, I paid 32 for 1994 Martinez from a retailer, 65 for 1994 Vesuvio at retail, 38 at auction complete with the nice wooden cases. These purchases were all in the last five years.
My estimate was at $35 a bottle for the whole thing; my total could be off if I did not count all the cases correct (which very well could be). However many bottles are there at $30-35 a bottle and that's a fair price for an "all in" purchase.

Re: Nice collection of Port for sale

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:00 am
by Chris G.
I'm going to leave it at this....I have some nice Ports to offer and everything is negotiable to an extent. If it gets to the point where it's not worth my time to advertise it, negotiate it, and ship it, then it will end up at a auction house and I can wash my hands of it. I'm going to base my quotes and discount them based on recent sales and not ones that happened in the past 5 years.