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NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:09 am
by Rune EG
Apparently exactly the same product as Dalva, just another label.
Bottled 2014. Decanted 3 hrs. Brownred colour. Aroma of nuts, oak and some alcohol. Decanting time possibly too long as the caramel we could detect after 1-2 hrs had disappeared after 3 hrs. Full body. Quite smooth, but the taste is unfortunately too much influenced by alcohol. Otherwise taste of wood, some citrus. Bitter tannins with the dry bitterness especially towards the end. Long aftertaste. 86 pts.
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:45 am
by Thomas V
I have a suspicion that you bought these bottles from Torben Mandrup @ Drikportvin as I read previously that you most often buy your port in Denmark.
Interesting that you think that the Dalva and Presidential is the same just with different labels.
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:34 am
by Bradley Bogdan
Despite being attractively priced here in the States, not a favorite of mine either.
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Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:00 pm
by Rune EG
Yes Thomas, I did buy this bottle from Torben Mandrup/Drik Portvin.
Purchased quite a few of his Presidential selection, and this was the "youngest".
I will be posting more tasting notes as the various types have been tasted / consumed.
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:29 pm
by Thomas V
Rune EG wrote:Yes Thomas, I did buy this bottle from Torben Mandrup/Drik Portvin.
Purchased quite a few of his Presidential selection, and this was the "youngest".
I will be posting more tasting notes as the various types have been tasted / consumed.
Sounds great Rune.
Did you happen to buy any Bulas, DR or Vieira de Sousa? Would love to hear how they are showing,as I have been thinking about paying Torben a visit in the upcoming year.
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:42 pm
by Rune EG
Yes, I have purchased all three of them.
At the moment my favourites are Bulas (especially their 20 yrs tawny) and DR
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:55 pm
by Thomas V
Rune EG wrote:Yes, I have purchased all three of them.
At the moment my favourites are Bulas (especially their 20 yrs tawny) and DR
Did you try any of their VT's yet?
I am really looking forward to tasting Bulas
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:36 pm
by Andy Velebil
Thomas V wrote:.....
Interesting that you think that the Dalva and Presidential is the same just with different labels.
Thomas,
Presidential is the USA (and I guess Denmark too) label for Dalva. I have been told by representatives of the company they are exactly the same wines just under different labels for different countries. Why they do that I have no idea.
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:31 am
by Thomas V
Andy Velebil wrote:Thomas V wrote:.....
Interesting that you think that the Dalva and Presidential is the same just with different labels.
Presidential is the USA (and I guess Denmark too) label for Dalva. I have been told by representatives of the company they are exactly the same wines just under different labels for different countries. Why they do that I have no idea.
That is a bit of a head scratcher as I have found suppliers in Denmark that sell Presidential (Where Rune bought his bottles) and others that sell Dalva. Seems strange that a company would allow both brands to be imported into the same country and then distributed. At least it is confusing for the consumer, especially that the distributors have different listing prices for the same bottle under the 2 different labels.
Re: NV Presidential 20 year tawny port
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:25 am
by Andy Velebil
Thomas V wrote:Andy Velebil wrote:Thomas V wrote:.....
Interesting that you think that the Dalva and Presidential is the same just with different labels.
Presidential is the USA (and I guess Denmark too) label for Dalva. I have been told by representatives of the company they are exactly the same wines just under different labels for different countries. Why they do that I have no idea.
That is a bit of a head scratcher as I have found suppliers in Denmark that sell Presidential (Where Rune bought his bottles) and others that sell Dalva. Seems strange that a company would allow both brands to be imported into the same country and then distributed. At least it is confusing for the consumer, especially that the distributors have different listing prices for the same bottle under the 2 different labels.
I agree it's weird. Presidential here is usually priced cheaper than others in the same category. Of course, its always possible they are phasing one label out and bringing the new one in slowly??? Or maybe someone is gray marketing in one label?? Just tossing some possible scenarios out there.