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Another nice listing!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:22 am
by Roy Hersh
Roy,

Here are a few more of the ports that we received on consignment just recently.

1950 Niepoort Garrafeira - $650
1952 Niepoort Garrafeira - $650
1958 Warre Vintage Port - $695
1958 Fonseca Quinta Mileau Late Bottled Vintage Port - $650
1977 Quarles Harris Vintage Port - 3 available at $95
1977 Gould Campbell Vintage Port - $139
1977 Sandeman Vintage Port - $98
1985 Graham Vintage Port - $124
1985 Quarles Harris Vintage Port - $64
1990 Quinta do Vesuvio Vintage Port - $75
NV Averys Duke of Malmsey Madeira - $60

Hope all is well way up there. Have a great day.

Bob Orlandi
Aabalat Fine and Rare Wines



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Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:20 am
by Andy Velebil
1958 Fonseca Quinta Mileau Late Bottled Vintage Port - $650
I know it may be a tad old, but thats a lot of money for any LBV!

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:56 am
by Moses Botbol
Andy Velebil wrote:
1958 Fonseca Quinta Mileau Late Bottled Vintage Port - $650
I know it may be a tad old, but thats a lot of money for any LBV!
Not many will ever get to try that one. Quite a rare bottle.

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:00 am
by Glenn E.
One of the oddities of Port is that old, rare, bottles take on collector prices. It has nothing to do with the quality of the wine, it's just something that collectors desire to be able to display as part of their collection.

That might be part of what's going on with that bottle. How often do you even see a 50 year old LBV? LBVs tend to be consumed, I would think. :drunk:

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:39 am
by Andy Velebil
People get all excited and think stuff is worth outrageous prices simply because they are old. But an LBV is still an LBV no matter how you look at it. When VPs older than that are cheaper there is a problem. Its a curiosity that I am sure is well past its prime by now, as 1958 was not a good year at all.

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:08 pm
by Derek T.
I'm with Andy on this one. I think the most I have paid for an LBV is £30 for a 1965 unfiltered Noval a couple of years ago. I only paid that price because it is my birth year. $650: 2 or 3 bottles of Fonseca 1963 VP or 1 bottle of 1958 LBV? Go figure :wink:

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:14 pm
by Eric Ifune
The Duke of Malmsey is $60?!!!!!

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:30 pm
by Andy Velebil
Eric Ifune wrote:The Duke of Malmsey is $60?!!!!!
I am assuming that is overpriced??

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:45 am
by Glenn E.
Andy Velebil wrote:People get all excited and think stuff is worth outrageous prices simply because they are old. But an LBV is still an LBV no matter how you look at it. When VPs older than that are cheaper there is a problem. Its a curiosity that I am sure is well past its prime by now, as 1958 was not a good year at all.
You're looking at it as a Port. In that respect, you are 100% correct.

I worked for Wizards of the Coast during the Magic: the Gathering and Pokemon years, so I have an a second perspective on collector pricing. To me it looks like that's exactly what's going on here - this is not priced as a Port, it is priced as a very rare collector's item. It is a bottle that very few others - if ANY others - will have. That's an exclusive prize for a collector.

People used to pay $500-$700 for a paper playing card from the original limited-production runs of Magic: the Gathering. (They may still... I haven't checked prices in years.) I thought they were crazy, in no small part because after paying $500 for a card they would encase them in lucite and hide them in their closets. When I finally realized that they weren't buying a playing card, that they were buying a collector's item, then it finally made some sense. Not a lot... but some. :wink:

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:22 pm
by Andy Velebil
I only look at as Port :wink: :lol: and an old over-the-hill LBV :devil:

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:25 pm
by Derek T.
Andy Velebil wrote:I only look at as Port :wink: :lol: and an old over-the-hill LBV :devil:
...but you would look at and value it slightly differently if it was an LBV from your birth year :wink:

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:33 pm
by Andy Velebil
Derek T. wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:I only look at as Port :wink: :lol: and an old over-the-hill LBV :devil:
...but you would look at and value it slightly differently if it was an LBV from your birth year :wink:
LBV for that much money...NO! If it was maybe a $200 for an old birthyear, ok..maybe....if there was nothing else.

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:40 pm
by Derek T.
Andy Velebil wrote:
Derek T. wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:I only look at as Port :wink: :lol: and an old over-the-hill LBV :devil:
...but you would look at and value it slightly differently if it was an LBV from your birth year :wink:
LBV for that much money...NO! If it was maybe a $200 for an old birthyear, ok..maybe....if there was nothing else.
I was talking about the one at 60 bucks!! :lol: - $650? :snooty:

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:47 pm
by Eric Ifune
Eric Ifune wrote:
The Duke of Malmsey is $60?!!!!!
I am assuming that is overpriced??
Avery's Duke of Malmsey is an entry level Maderia. Not even an indication of age.

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:57 pm
by Andy Velebil
Eric Ifune wrote:
Eric Ifune wrote:
The Duke of Malmsey is $60?!!!!!
I am assuming that is overpriced??
Avery's Duke of Malmsey is an entry level Maderia. Not even an indication of age.
:shock: yeah that is a lot then

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:43 pm
by Shawn Denkler
Since Aabalat is close to me I visit them on occasion. I have seen the 1958 Fonseca Quinta Mileau Late Bottled Vintage Port. It has good color still - better than most 1958 vintage ports. 1958 has to be one of the first LBVs bottled. I suspect it was a vintage port lot that was not declared. The price is high because it is a 50th birthyear or anniversary wine, and ports are the best wines out there with the exception of even rarer and more expensive 1958 Napa Cabernet Sauvignon.

Re: Another nice listing!

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:29 pm
by Todd Pettinger
Derek T. wrote:$650: 2 or 3 bottles of Fonseca 1963 VP or 1 bottle of 1958 LBV? Go figure :wink:
Unless you live in Edmonton, where $650 doesn't even get you the ONE bottle of Fonseca 1963. Nope, try $850! Yup, its a crime.

Still, if I was a guy with more money than I knew what to do with, guess what? I would pick one up for the nostalgia reason - just like Glenn indicated might be the reasoning behind the pricing.

Ah well, a guy cam dream! ;)