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1985 Taylor Fladgate Vintage Port

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:55 am
by John Danza
I had this wine yesterday at a friend's house. He had purchased it upon release and kept it in an excellent passive cellar. It was decanted 3 hours prior to service.

The wine was dark red with no evidence of browning, but I expect was losing color as Taylor is usually a pretty black wine when young. It was a little hot from the alcohol, which never really resolved. The flavors were sour cherries and very dark chocolate. It was a good port, but frankly seemed a little disjointed to me. Are there any issues with '85 Taylor that anyone knows of, or am I just reading something into this bottle that isn't there?

Have a Merry Christmas!

John Danza

Re: 1985 Taylor vintage port

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:25 am
by Roy Hersh
John,

I think your impressions are spot on. This has never struck me to be a top notch VP regardless of the bottle, whether at Taylor's Lodge or at a lunch/dinner where they've supplied this Port or from other sources in the USA ... just a mediocre bottle of Vintage Port from a producer and vintage, both of which can provide much more enjoyment than this.

Re: 1985 Taylor vintage port

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:29 pm
by Andy Velebil
I agree with your TN John. I've had this many times and never been thrilled with it or the '83, although the '85 is a tad better. I've read some others notes that have given it a good review (low to mid 90's points), but I think the best I've ever had was an ex-cellars bottle at the Fonseca lodge and I gave it either 90 or 91 points, so I'll let that speak for itself.

Re: 1985 Taylor vintage port

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:59 pm
by Roy Hersh
Andy, what is your typical or average score for this bottling?

Re: 1985 Taylor vintage port

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:16 pm
by Andy Velebil
Normally its around the 87-89 point range for me. Oh and I checked my notes, 91 is my best score of it to date.

Re: 1985 Taylor vintage port

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:18 am
by Todd Pettinger
John Danza wrote:I had this wine yesterday at a friend's house. He had purchased it upon release and kept it in an excellent passive cellar. It was decanted 3 hours prior to service.

The wine was dark red with no evidence of browning, but I expect was losing color as Taylor is usually a pretty black wine when young. It was a little hot from the alcohol, which never really resolved. The flavors were sour cherries and very dark chocolate. It was a good port, but frankly seemed a little disjointed to me. Are there any issues with '85 Taylor that anyone knows of, or am I just reading something into this bottle that isn't there?

Have a Merry Christmas!

John Danza
John,
I wrote a year ago that the '85 Taylor was dead as dead could be. No nose (even after 11+ hrs of decant time) although my impressions are based upon a single bottle and thus should be taken at face value... comments from a guy who barely knows what he is talking about! ;) Several others have validated this to be the norm. If it wasn't so darned expensive in my area (simply because of the Taylor name) I would buy a couple of bottles to do further "research and discovery" with myself...

Todd