For The Love Of Port

hi iv only had another warre being the 63 12 years ago and it was lovely 94pt had it 2 ys ago and it seemed to have lost a little 89pt
tonight we are drinking from a mag a 1977 warre
colour deep ruby
lovely rich smell
taste sweet medium power chockolate alchaol pleasant more sweet cinamon definatly nicely ballenced hardly any sighn of colour loss over several years
diferent to the 63 more like the charackter of a 1985 graham from memory to be honest but sweeter slight bitter tingle on tounge half way through tannings and or alchohol
it will be better tomorrow as only decantered for 1 heur 89 pts
wife thinks it very sweet i found it very pleasant symonb
still feel fortunate to be drinking this and out of a mag it is lovely
drinking well now only little sediment like most modern ports after 1977 but may well drink well in mag form 10 to 20 ys

I've always enjoyed this vintage of Warre's, which has it's share of critics who aren't keen on it. It's not a blockbuster, but it always has that elegance to it that is so typical of this house.

hi the wife banned me from drinking any more till tonight so here goes
some colour loss on close inspection sweet slightly bitter alchohol cherry has breathed for 3 heures not well ballanced 8.7 still pleasant symonb

I have had dozens of bottles and a couple of Mags (still have more) of the 1977 (most of which were consumed in the 1992-1996 period) but more recent tastings of this wine show it is mature and on a nice plateau. I see absolutely NO resemblance between it and the 1985 Fonseca that Sy mentioned above, but that is just my palate. I don't know why anybody would be critical of this elegant VP but hey, different strokes for different folks.

hi roy you are right i think it was the 85 g not f85 i thought it similarish to but sweater this was the first tasting out of the mag the second 3 days later it was not quite as nice i found that strange but we noticed it was still pleasant symonb
yes it was on a plateau and nicely mature my mother thought it was lovely sheila thought it to sweet sounds a little like the story of the 3 bears and the porrage
im a fonseca /taylor man in that order that is my style of port i like best im finding

Andy Velebil wrote:I've always enjoyed this vintage of Warre's, which has it's share of critics who aren't keen on it. It's not a blockbuster, but it always has that elegance to it that is so typical of this house.

100%. I am a Warre fan... I have a '70 Magnum of Warre.

interestingly the ware 63 we had several years ago on advice from farther macknight from doylestoun pa was superb im going to buy some 2007 w heard its ace symonb

Symon B wrote:interestingly the ware 63 we had several years ago on advice from farther macknight from doylestoun pa was superb im going to buy some 2007 w heard its ace symonb

Yes you've heard correctly. The 2007 Warre's is a wonderful bottle which I have no doubt will age nicely for a long time.

Andy Velebil wrote:Yes you've heard correctly. The 2007 Warre's is a wonderful bottle which I have no doubt will age nicely for a long time.

Which premium 2007 did you think was lackluster? Its like take your pick.

Moses Botbol wrote:

Andy Velebil wrote:Yes you've heard correctly. The 2007 Warre's is a wonderful bottle which I have no doubt will age nicely for a long time.

Which premium 2007 did you think was lackluster? Its like take your pick.

In all honestly, I thought the Fonseca was lackluster. The times I had it early on were not up to the level this house can achieve. But I've not had it since those early samples (tasted blind and non-blind) so I don't know if it sorted itself out now or not. Please don't get me wrong, the times I had it, it was still a nice VP, but not the blockbuster I thought it should have been for this prestigious house.

i would not go out of my way to buy a case of f 77 in any size bottling due to the experience we had of servere variation from weak light diluited style port to yes the odd bottle of super port and for the price we were out and actualy sold our remaining case unopened i was gob smacked at the variations and believe you me peeved
re the ware 77 id drink it again and it was pleasant and good value my favrite of the 77 was the taylor that did realy remiend me of t48 but little brother
it had a backbone power smooth symonb

Symon B wrote:i would not go out of my way to buy a case of f 77 in any size bottling due to the experience we had of servere variation from weak light diluited style port to yes the odd bottle of super port and for the price we were out and actualy sold our remaining case unopened i was gob smacked at the variations and believe you me peeved
re the ware 77 id drink it again and it was pleasant and good value my favrite of the 77 was the taylor that did realy remiend me of t48 but little brother
it had a backbone power smooth symonb

I was actually referring to the 2007 Fonseca in my above post.

However, I agree with your assessment of the 1977 Fonseca. I too have experienced some serious bottle variation in it. My experiences have ranged from outstanding bottles to just average bottles. I have no idea why such major bottle variation seems to be occurring in this.

hi is the 2007f problematic to iv never had it symonb

Symon B wrote:hi is the 2007f problematic to iv never had it symonb

No it is not. I thought it was quite peppery and powerful when I tried it. I thought it was Taylor 2007 at first.