The ultimate corkscrew
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- Tom Archer
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The ultimate corkscrew
Thinking about the corkscrews that I've owned and seen, all were designed around one or more of four objectives:
- Cheap
- Stylish
- Quick
- Effortless
However, studying t the decayed remains of an old cork, and considering the physics of successfully removing such a cork from the neck of a bottle in one piece, I realise that quite a radical new design is needed to produce the ultimate corkscrew for ancient bottles.
But before I start spending money on this project - are there any clever gadgets out there that have beaten me to it?
Tom
- Cheap
- Stylish
- Quick
- Effortless
However, studying t the decayed remains of an old cork, and considering the physics of successfully removing such a cork from the neck of a bottle in one piece, I realise that quite a radical new design is needed to produce the ultimate corkscrew for ancient bottles.
But before I start spending money on this project - are there any clever gadgets out there that have beaten me to it?
Tom
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One technique that I found successful on a few occasions, was to drill a hole in the cork with a drill before inserting the corkscrew.
You can see a picture there :http://www.frederickblais.com/virtual_tasting/drill.jpg
It is very effective because you can work on the cork without putting any real pressure on it, something you can't do with regular corkscrew.
Another invention I saw last year, was as gas system. You insert a needle trough the cork, then you put gas between the liquid and the cork, with the pressure the cork will get off the bottle. I have never tried it though.
You can see a picture there :http://www.frederickblais.com/virtual_tasting/drill.jpg
It is very effective because you can work on the cork without putting any real pressure on it, something you can't do with regular corkscrew.
Another invention I saw last year, was as gas system. You insert a needle trough the cork, then you put gas between the liquid and the cork, with the pressure the cork will get off the bottle. I have never tried it though.
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Fred,
I remember the gas type from the 70's, but haven't seen one since.
I imagine there's a possibility that the bottle might explode - which would be manna for the lawyers..
Aside from completely re-engineering the conventional corkscrew, I'm going to try a simple experiment using a liquid nitrogen canister, of the type used by plumbers to freeze pipes.
My theory is that if I sink a corkscrew into a cork that offers little resistance, is clearly decayed, and therefore likely to fail, I will leave the corkscrew in situ and squirt the top of it with the nitrogen, where it emerges from the cork.
Metal conducts heat (and cold) very well. This stuff is so incredibly cold it will very quickly freeze the cork around the screw. A damp cloth around the neck of the bottle should make sure the cork doesn't freeze onto the glass.
The semi frozen cork should (in theory!) be easier to withdraw.
I have a Croft '55 that has a failing cork and needs to be drunk or re-corked.
As soon as I can get hold of a nitrogen canister, I will put the theory to the test.
If it fails, I will console myself with the contents of the bottle!
Will report!
Tom
I remember the gas type from the 70's, but haven't seen one since.
I imagine there's a possibility that the bottle might explode - which would be manna for the lawyers..
Aside from completely re-engineering the conventional corkscrew, I'm going to try a simple experiment using a liquid nitrogen canister, of the type used by plumbers to freeze pipes.
My theory is that if I sink a corkscrew into a cork that offers little resistance, is clearly decayed, and therefore likely to fail, I will leave the corkscrew in situ and squirt the top of it with the nitrogen, where it emerges from the cork.
Metal conducts heat (and cold) very well. This stuff is so incredibly cold it will very quickly freeze the cork around the screw. A damp cloth around the neck of the bottle should make sure the cork doesn't freeze onto the glass.
The semi frozen cork should (in theory!) be easier to withdraw.
I have a Croft '55 that has a failing cork and needs to be drunk or re-corked.
As soon as I can get hold of a nitrogen canister, I will put the theory to the test.
If it fails, I will console myself with the contents of the bottle!
Will report!
Tom
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Fred:
My father owned on of the gas type of corkscrews.
It had a long needle to insert into the cork until it passed thru entirely, then the gas was injected using a button on the top which released it from a cartridge in the handle.
It worked well but it was more of a novelty and never really caught on.
I believe that people thought the gas would harm the wine's flavor.
I vacillate back and forth between a Rabit type and the old standard two handled variety.
I do agree with you that a better extraction method is needed.
Good luck and keep us informed.
My father owned on of the gas type of corkscrews.
It had a long needle to insert into the cork until it passed thru entirely, then the gas was injected using a button on the top which released it from a cartridge in the handle.
It worked well but it was more of a novelty and never really caught on.
I believe that people thought the gas would harm the wine's flavor.
I vacillate back and forth between a Rabit type and the old standard two handled variety.
I do agree with you that a better extraction method is needed.
Good luck and keep us informed.
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Nitrogen boils at - 196 C, which is fantastically cold. The thermal conductivity of all metals is very high compared to cork, but even there the temperature gradient should produce the desired result within a minute or two.
The biggest potential hazards with my theory seem to be;
a) Accidental frostbite - I'll wear gloves!
and
b) Rendering the metal of the corkscrew so cold that it becomes brittle.
I plan to wrap a wet towel round the neck of the bottle immediately after squirting, and then again when I see the moisture left behind start to freeze.
Tom
The biggest potential hazards with my theory seem to be;
a) Accidental frostbite - I'll wear gloves!
and
b) Rendering the metal of the corkscrew so cold that it becomes brittle.
I plan to wrap a wet towel round the neck of the bottle immediately after squirting, and then again when I see the moisture left behind start to freeze.
Tom
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All I got to say is my port tongs work everytime...no more broken corks
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Tom, please film yourself doing this. I'd be realy curious to see how you are going to execute all this.
The problem will probably be to control the temperature. The frozen cork will probably increase in size due to the water it contain and be harder to extract. My feeling with a crumbly cork is that you are going to come out with the wick and a hole in your cork :o
About recorking, tell me you don't recork a Croft 55...
The problem will probably be to control the temperature. The frozen cork will probably increase in size due to the water it contain and be harder to extract. My feeling with a crumbly cork is that you are going to come out with the wick and a hole in your cork :o
About recorking, tell me you don't recork a Croft 55...
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The bottle is quite badly ullaged, with sugar crystals forming on the end of the cork, which is soft and slightly damp to the touch.About recorking, tell me you don't recork a Croft 55...
The cork is clearly decayed, so it's a good test bed, - if everything goes pear shaped I can always drink it!
I don't have the means to film the action, but I will describe the outcome - good or bad!
Tom
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Tom,
Surely you can find something a bit more down-market to try this on before using a Croft 55 as a lab rat
I hope your description doesn't end with "......and it was at that point that the bottle shattered and the Croft 55 flowed onto the kitchen floor "
Please try to borrow a mobile phone with a videa camera in it - this could be the first video clip for Roy's new TV series, FTLOP Bloopers
Good luck !
Derek
Surely you can find something a bit more down-market to try this on before using a Croft 55 as a lab rat
I hope your description doesn't end with "......and it was at that point that the bottle shattered and the Croft 55 flowed onto the kitchen floor "
Please try to borrow a mobile phone with a videa camera in it - this could be the first video clip for Roy's new TV series, FTLOP Bloopers
Good luck !
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Fred,
How does drilling the cork before sending the corkscrew in help? After all, the drill makes a hole straight down while the corkscrew is a helix and doesn't therefore follow the drill hole.
Is the function of the hole to equalise the pressure behind the cork so that when the cork is pulled, a partial vacum (or rather a drop in pressure) doesn't form in the airspace, which would normally 'pull' the cork back?
What's the theory?
Thanks. Philip
How does drilling the cork before sending the corkscrew in help? After all, the drill makes a hole straight down while the corkscrew is a helix and doesn't therefore follow the drill hole.
Is the function of the hole to equalise the pressure behind the cork so that when the cork is pulled, a partial vacum (or rather a drop in pressure) doesn't form in the airspace, which would normally 'pull' the cork back?
What's the theory?
Thanks. Philip
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Philip,
I would guess that removing some of the mass of the cork by drilling a hole would result in the cork coming under less pressure when the helix of the screw is inserted. It's much like drilling a hole before inserting a screw in wood. Although the screw is always bigger than the hole, the existence of the hole reduces the chance of the wood splitting as the bulk of the mass of the screw has a space to fill rather than making it's own hole by forcing the fibres of the wood apart.
I doubt that it has anything to do with equalising air pressure inside and outside the bottle.
As an aside, I opened a bottle of Gould Campbell 1977 at the weekend which had a fairly loose cork but had not leaked. When I inserted the corkscrew (just a normal T shaped open helix) the cork started to push down into the bottle. I managed to get the corkscrew all the way through the cork by applying upward pressure as I turned the screw. Once the screw was in the cork I then released the upward pressure and simply turned the cork in the neck a few times to release some of it's grip on the bottle. Althought the cork was very soft I managed to get it out in one piece - 8)
Derek
I would guess that removing some of the mass of the cork by drilling a hole would result in the cork coming under less pressure when the helix of the screw is inserted. It's much like drilling a hole before inserting a screw in wood. Although the screw is always bigger than the hole, the existence of the hole reduces the chance of the wood splitting as the bulk of the mass of the screw has a space to fill rather than making it's own hole by forcing the fibres of the wood apart.
I doubt that it has anything to do with equalising air pressure inside and outside the bottle.
As an aside, I opened a bottle of Gould Campbell 1977 at the weekend which had a fairly loose cork but had not leaked. When I inserted the corkscrew (just a normal T shaped open helix) the cork started to push down into the bottle. I managed to get the corkscrew all the way through the cork by applying upward pressure as I turned the screw. Once the screw was in the cork I then released the upward pressure and simply turned the cork in the neck a few times to release some of it's grip on the bottle. Althought the cork was very soft I managed to get it out in one piece - 8)
Derek
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Well, I don't have Croft '55 all over the kitchen floor
I took some photos, but have no idea how to post .jpg's here - perhaps someone can tell me!
I chipped off the old wax and cleaned the top of the bottle.
I then blasted the top of the corkscrew until both it and the top of the cork was heavily frosted.
After a minute or so I breathed on the neck of the bottle, and saw ice form, so I wrapped the neck in a wet teatowel for a few seconds before pulling the cork.
Two thirds of it slid out graciously, nicely frozen, but I'd been too hasty - the bottom part remained in situ and had not frozen
I managed to tease out virtually all that remained, and immediately re-corked it. I had tried sterilsing a couple of corks in boiling water, but they swelled up so much I couldn't get them in the machine - so I used a dry cork instead.
The machine required a lot of downward force - - and left the new cork slightly proud of the bottle - which is irritating - I don't think I did anything wrong though...
I shall now leave the bottle upright for a few days to let the cork settle before laying it down.
Tom
I took some photos, but have no idea how to post .jpg's here - perhaps someone can tell me!
I chipped off the old wax and cleaned the top of the bottle.
I then blasted the top of the corkscrew until both it and the top of the cork was heavily frosted.
After a minute or so I breathed on the neck of the bottle, and saw ice form, so I wrapped the neck in a wet teatowel for a few seconds before pulling the cork.
Two thirds of it slid out graciously, nicely frozen, but I'd been too hasty - the bottom part remained in situ and had not frozen
I managed to tease out virtually all that remained, and immediately re-corked it. I had tried sterilsing a couple of corks in boiling water, but they swelled up so much I couldn't get them in the machine - so I used a dry cork instead.
The machine required a lot of downward force - - and left the new cork slightly proud of the bottle - which is irritating - I don't think I did anything wrong though...
I shall now leave the bottle upright for a few days to let the cork settle before laying it down.
Tom
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There you have the links for the pictures.
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Nice frost and buy the looks of the last pic, I would say that cork really did crumble
Tom, thanks for sharing the pics.
Fred, thanks for posting the links.
Tom,
I think your new name should be Uncle "Mad Scientist" Tom...just kidding of course
Tom, thanks for sharing the pics.
Fred, thanks for posting the links.
Tom,
I think your new name should be Uncle "Mad Scientist" Tom...just kidding of course
Andy Velebil Good wine is a good familiar creature if it be well used. William Shakespeare http://www.fortheloveofport.com
I don't think I have the nerves required to do what Tom has just done - thanks for the pics and the links guys. If I have any recorking that I need to have done, I will find a suitable "outsource partner".
But Tom's posting did make me think. Why are corkscrew threads all round? Surely a corkscrew would be more effective for ancient corks if the helix were made of a flat, teflon coated material.
Has anyone ever seen a corkscrew with a flat helix rather than a wire / round helix?
Alex
But Tom's posting did make me think. Why are corkscrew threads all round? Surely a corkscrew would be more effective for ancient corks if the helix were made of a flat, teflon coated material.
Has anyone ever seen a corkscrew with a flat helix rather than a wire / round helix?
Alex