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1961 Calem

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:52 am
by A Beykovsky
Anyone tried the 1961 Calem? Is it worth $160?

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:24 pm
by Glenn E.
I don't recall having tried it. Are you talking about a VP or a Colheita?

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:20 pm
by Mike J. W.
It's a Colheita over on WineBid.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:34 am
by Andy Velebil
A Beykovsky wrote:Anyone tried the 1961 Calem? Is it worth $160?
Does it say when it was bottled? For me, that’s an important question related to how much I’m willing to spend on a colheita at auction.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:29 am
by Mike J. W.
Wine-Searcher rated it a 92. Wine Spectator rated it a 95. There were also 2 reviews on Wine-Searcher that rated it a 4 out of 5 (Very Good).
Jancis Robinson rated it on Wine-Searcher as well, but you have to be a paid subscriber to see her score. I suspect she rated it lower if the average wine critic score on there is a 92.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:01 pm
by Eric Menchen
Andy Velebil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:34 am Does it say when it was bottled? For me, that’s an important question related to how much I’m willing to spend on a colheita at auction.
They have three bottles up for auction. One back label is pictured showing bottled in 2016. I suspect they all were bottled at the same time, as it looks like they came from the same source and the fronts look the same.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:14 pm
by Andy Velebil
Eric Menchen wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:34 am Does it say when it was bottled? For me, that’s an important question related to how much I’m willing to spend on a colheita at auction.
They have three bottles up for auction. One back label is pictured showing bottled in 2016. I suspect they all were bottled at the same time, as it looks like they came from the same source and the fronts look the same.
Four years in bottle is getting to the upper end of bottle age for that Producer, for a Colheita. Given the bottling date and the ~30% BP and taxes, that’s about $200/bottle. Not a horrible price but not a good deal either.

Given all the above that’s been said, if it were me I’d pass. However,If it’s for an anniversary year or other reason, like filling in a vertical or horizontal, then it’s a decent price for what sounds like a decent but not great tawny.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:55 am
by Rune EG
Available at the Norwegian State Monopoly for a price equivalent to abt USD 197.
The two wine journalists here in Norway that have most experience with port wine, are giving 91 pts and 93 pts.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:09 am
by Eric Menchen
Well, it looks like there is at least one of the 1961 Calem bottles still left at $160+BP. Sometimes winebid will drop the price after a while, but since the other two bottles already sold, I suspect this one will sell soon without a price drop.

They had three bottles of 1952 Burmester colheita for sale last week as well. I was outbid at $175, as the bottles ended up going for $185, $215, and $220 + BP.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:36 am
by Andrew Kirschner
Eric Menchen wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:09 am Well, it looks like there is at least one of the 1961 Calem bottles still left at $160+BP. Sometimes winebid will drop the price after a while, but since the other two bottles already sold, I suspect this one will sell soon without a price drop.

They had three bottles of 1952 Burmester colheita for sale last week as well. I was outbid at $175, as the bottles ended up going for $185, $215, and $220 + BP.
I picked up one of the Burmesters. Sorry.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:42 pm
by Glenn E.

Eric Menchen wrote:They had three bottles of 1952 Burmester colheita for sale last week as well. I was outbid at $175, as the bottles ended up going for $185, $215, and $220 + BP.
That's a pretty fabulous Colheita, so all 3 of those prices are good.

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:08 am
by Eric Menchen
Andrew Kirschner wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:36 am I picked up one of the Burmesters. Sorry.
No worries. When travel returns to normal I'll stop by so you can open it. :lol: [cheers.gif]

Re: 1961 Calem

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:47 am
by Andrew Kirschner
I love to share!