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PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:47 am
by Roy Hersh
I often wonder why this particular area of the Forum has not become more of a real "marketplace" where users trade, buy & sell to one another ... whether Port, Madeira or even Douro wines?

I think it would be great to see more of this kind of activity here as right now it is mostly used as a bulletin board to share Port and/or Madeira offerings by retailers. But I believe it could become an interactive way to find wines that are well stored from friends here or at least other FTLOPers that you either know or have yet to meet.

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:36 am
by Erik Wiechers
Ahaaaa, i never knew that this section was meant to be for that. I always thought it was just to let others know where to get a great deal.

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:55 pm
by Roy Hersh
For whatever reason, the "trade" between known users has never really taken off. Or sale between FTLOPers. I thought there would be far more of that kind of commercialism here and have been surprised. But it is your :ftlop: Marketplace, do with it as you will. :salute:

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:49 am
by Moses Botbol
Roy Hersh wrote:For whatever reason, the "trade" between known users has never really taken off. Or sale between FTLOPers. I thought there would be far more of that kind of commercialism here and have been surprised. But it is your :ftlop: Marketplace, do with it as you will. :salute:
I got some port for sale for ya... :twisted:

I am also suprised there is not more of this on this forum as well.

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:05 am
by Andy Velebil
The one thing I've noticed about Port lovers is that unlike our dry wine counterparts, we tend to hoard bottles. Maybe becuase they last so long in the cellar we don't want to get rid of them, even for a trade. We think of them as our holy grails to one day be opened on that special occassion or just to share with friends. I don't know if that is the reason, but just a thought I've had over the years.

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:44 am
by Moses Botbol
Andy Velebil wrote:The one thing I've noticed about Port lovers is that unlike our dry wine counterparts, we tend to hoard bottles. Maybe becuase they last so long in the cellar we don't want to get rid of them, even for a trade. We think of them as our holy grails to one day be opened on that special occassion or just to share with friends.
Not sure hoard is the right term. For me, I do not want to miss the opportunity to drink the port I am sending off. Not that I am hoarding to keep forever, as I am game to drink whatever bottle I have... I just want to be present while it's being consumed. Like tutoring someone your whole life and not getting to seem them graduate... Sure it's good hear they graduated, but even better to share the experience.

I am open to trade bottles I have more than one of for similarly tiered bottles. Maybe this winter will be the opportunity?

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:22 am
by Andy Velebil
Yeah hoarding probably isn't the best term, and its not ment to be a negative thing, but you get the idea.

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:36 pm
by Derek T.
I can assure you there are lots of collective port purchases and distribution of "surplus" bottles going on in the UK but it tends to be done by PM and email, possibly due to people being hesitant to discuss money in an open forum.

Cross-Atlantic port trading is always going to be difficult unless the quantities are extremely small or you have storage on both sides of the pond.

I'm not sure about the rules in other countries but I believe that in the UK is actually illegal for private individuals to sell alchohol to one another which is another reason for keeping the "trading" behind closed doors.

Derek

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:34 am
by Roy Hersh
On line ... we talk in terms of "trades" Derek. In emails, other types of exchanges may take place. So mentioning a "trade" here, certainly will lead to folks pursuit of further discussion which is held privately, of course. Prices need never be mentioned, but bringing up a wine that is available for trade, opens up the dialogue that will ensue. :wink:

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:58 am
by Stewart T.
Personally, I don't have enough "surplus" of any particular Port to trade, but in light of this thread, if I did, I might post something simliar to other wine forums, sans pricing.

WTB (Want to Buy) 1971 Noval Colheita
WTT (Want to Trade) 6 btls of 1994 Vesuvio
WTS (Want to Sell) 1 btl 1952 Dalva White Port

I have used ebob's marketplace before to fill in some missing years in a non-Port vertical that I have going. While the usually DO list prices on the ebob forum, we could leave them off here and do the negotiation via PM or email.

I think that these kinds of trades ARE likely taking place, but no one knows about them because they are taking place entirely via PM or email.

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:22 pm
by Roy Hersh
Stewart is correct. I know of many, including Madeira that go on behind the scenes. It would be plenty of fun to bring some of these :ftlop: trades to light and create a really great marketplace.

Best regards,

Roy

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:00 pm
by Moses Botbol
Sounds cool. Let's get it rolling!

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:18 pm
by Carlos Rodriguez
Isn“t a bad idea, but sadly I haven't got enough port :( yet. But I wouldn't main to buy or sell ( when I'll have ), to one another. I see it quiete easy to do it :) .

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:37 pm
by Erik Wiechers
Do we post our port for trade in this thread or a different thread ?

Re: PORT FOR TRADE?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:59 am
by Andy Velebil
Erik Wiechers wrote:Do we post our port for trade in this thread or a different thread ?
Erik,
Just start a new thread